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  • PhilK
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    Lois and Meg Griffin should be used like Francine was

    Wonderful wonderful American Dad pinball. Francine a delight on it
    Then you have Family Guy. Why wasn't Lois and Meg used the same way ?
    Why the worst characters - Joe Swanson (not the worst), Peter and the tedious Brian - used, while no Lois, no Meg, and precious little Quagmire ????
    Archer and Bobs Burgers I have no interest at all
    A Rick and Morty INSTEAD of Archer and Bobs Burgers and more Lois/Meg/Quagmire would have me buying this for my PC (refusing to pay full price for stuff like Bobs and Archer, I already have American Dad on my Sony Z2)
    Last edited by PhilK; 08-25-2016, 04:00 PM. Reason: .

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  • Stephen220378
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    The only Zen Pinball DLC I haven't bought so far because I hate the cartoon look of the tables, especially the ball and flippers.

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  • Beliskner
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    Originally posted by thedoc46 View Post
    I know you all say its too easy. But I don't think anything in Pinball is easy. Whilst i continue to practice, would you all agree Wizard mode is the best way to mega points? So with that being said, should players always aim to complete each mission one by one to get to wizard mode or just go with other missions.
    In pinball it's all about the risk/reward factor. Wizard Mode isn't always the best way to score points because it's so hard to get there on some tables and make it work in a way that big points are actually possible. Sometimes wizard mode is best but other times it's better to go for multiballs, spam ramps or repeat the same side mission over and over again.
    As far as Family Guy is concerned I honestly can't even remember. I think I did go for wizard mode on that one though.

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  • thedoc46
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    Would love to read a strategy guide on the best way to achieve a high score on FamilyGuy. Not that i'm probably good enough to hit everything i'm supposed too, when against the clock, most of my high scores are probably attributed to luck more than anything.... After 25 or so hrs, the best score i've been able to acheive is 97mil, but most my games end around the 30mil

    I know you all say its too easy. But I don't think anything in Pinball is easy. Whilst i continue to practice, would you all agree Wizard mode is the best way to mega points? So with that being said, should players always aim to complete each mission one by one to get to wizard mode or just go with other missions.
    Last edited by thedoc46; 02-11-2016, 09:04 PM.

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  • BarbieBobomb
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    Originally posted by thedoc46 View Post
    I'm a pinball noob.. But Family Guy has me hooked !!! Put 20hrs in since buying it. Its hilarious. The sound effects are spot on !

    Well done Zen 10/10 for me... Hardly touched the other tables. So can't comment on 'em. Just loving Family guy.
    Thanks!

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  • thedoc46
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    yk8mnq

    I'm a pinball noob.. But Family Guy has me hooked !!! Put 20hrs in since buying it. Its hilarious. The sound effects are spot on !

    Well done Zen 10/10 for me... Hardly touched the other tables. So can't comment on 'em. Just loving Family guy.

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  • Captain Canardly
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    I had a small glitch earlier this week in the helicopter ( if ferget his name)((Bertram?) anyway I had a freeze up when missles collided and it was the 'last point to be had- I'm running 99% on PS4 now, ( where it happened). I just hit the reset button on the controller to quit game, went back in and optioned 'not continue' previous game- all is good
    You youngin' go right ahead and complain about the table simplicity- I'm havin' just too much fun! I get amazed @ the origins and how all the electrics "under the table" and sequencing is done! I'm tellin' everybody by werd of mouth about Zen Pinball!- Started with primary on the app store with Apple, now I'm not fighting with a keypad on a rolling sub desk! just a sticky left R1 switch!
    BTW, I'm Captivethumb on the PSN.
    Johnny

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  • skyway73
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    Originally posted by hunter328 View Post
    Well, now I look stupid. That's what I get for giving my opinion too early. American Dad is now definitely my favorite of the four. Whenever you all decide to make it, I hope DEEP is the one to design the Twin Peaks table.
    Funny, I had the same experience. First impressions of this table weren't good so I played all the others, I went back to it and realised how good it is! A fun, solid table. My one complaint would be I wish the two main multiballs were more interesting.

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  • deep
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    Originally posted by hunter328 View Post
    Well, now I look stupid. That's what I get for giving my opinion too early. American Dad is now definitely my favorite of the four. Whenever you all decide to make it, I hope DEEP is the one to design the Twin Peaks table.
    I knew it was just kind of a misunderstanding Glad to hear you explored the possibilities in this table.

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  • hunter328
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    Originally posted by hunter328 View Post
    I haven't spent a whole lot of time playing them yet, but so far I like them all. American Dad may be my least favorite, which I found odd after seeing Deep designed it as his are usually my favorite. I thought the two sinkholes on the right slowed the game down too much, but again, I haven't played much and maybe I just haven't figured out the tables flow yet.
    I'm on the fence about the more realistic slingshots. On some tables I don't mind them, even like them, but on more frustrating tables like Age of Ultron, I find myself wishing for the old ones.
    My only real problem with ZP2, and I've said this before and know it's not something that can be changed, is how the proscore leaderboard got messed up by including every version of the soccer table. Chasing scores on that was what had me playing every single day for a really long time, but ever since the soccer table messed that up I've lost a lot of my ZP2 enthusiasm. If at all possible, when ZP3 comes out, could some please change it so that this doesn't happen. Maybe just include the highest score across all versions if a person owns more than one.
    Sorry, I kind of went off topic.
    Anyway, good work to all involved. I'm off to play some more.

    Well, now I look stupid. That's what I get for giving my opinion too early. American Dad is now definitely my favorite of the four. Whenever you all decide to make it, I hope DEEP is the one to design the Twin Peaks table.

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  • SmartBomb2011
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    Not to derail the thread, but I agree with hunter328 that its too bad the proscore leaderboard got messed up by including every version of the soccer table. The players that exploited this advantage by buying and playing every soccer team should be ashamed of themselves.

    OK, back on topic. American Dad is by far my favorite of the four. Family Guy is too easy and the other two seem incomplete. The 'threat level' part of AD is excellent and I like that there are several varying strategy decisions to be made according to game situations. (Which extra ball should I go for, or should I go for a kickback...or raise the threat level...or start a mission...)

    As far as "mature" cartoons go, I'd just love a Squidbillies pinball, although I suppose its humor would be too dark and weird for many.

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  • tenorhero
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    Ok Bob's burgers is growing on me. For me I think the challenge is making sure that your kickbacks are up. I usually don't have a problem doing bang backs but that left side seems nigh impossible to do so every time. I'm not sure what it is.

    That said I think the best way to score on this table is Wizard mode which is somewhat simple to get to. Basically shoot the center ramp 4 times for self promotion (2m finish bonus) Do this again so you can server 3 customers.

    Start orders hitting the sinkhole Bob's burgers 3 times. I try and shoot the right loop then the cross-ramp shot with the upper left flipper. Bob says 'I'd recommend the burger of the day' Each lane lit now gives a 1m bonus. Once orders is done basically shoot Lanes and combos in fry mode to rank up the cost of your burgers. I think the more you fry the bigger the delivery bonus is when the customer lanes are flashing. Or you can just wait till the timer goes down if you feel that some shots can be a risk of draining. If you drain mode, you'll have to start over again shooting the sinkhole 3 times.

    Once done with fry mode Random lanes flash and you shoot appropriate lanes to keep them lit and server your customers. It's basically a hurry up for each lane hit. I had it up to 4m+ it decreases pretty rapidly so light lanes as fast as you can. Basically repeat the above steps and wizard mode is lit at the sinkhole. Wizard mode is lit both night and day I'm not sure if it's different for either.

    Wizard mode is a 4 ball MB score jackpots then try and hit the super jackpot on the cross-ramp. Scores are random depending how many modes you finish.

    Trick or treat MB (Night) shoot the right spinner till the mileage get's down to zer0. Jackpots are 250k which is kind of minuscule. I'm not sure if you can increase it so doing this MB seems kind of pointless. The daytime MB gives you bit more in scoring but not again seems like it's pointless as the scores aren't very high. Wizard mode is the best way to score. Other modes when completed give you a range of 2 - 5m. Stacking them can be rewarding them.

    Fun table. I find it much more engaging than Family guy.
    Last edited by tenorhero; 10-30-2015, 07:27 AM.

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  • hunter328
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    I haven't spent a whole lot of time playing them yet, but so far I like them all. American Dad may be my least favorite, which I found odd after seeing Deep designed it as his are usually my favorite. I thought the two sinkholes on the right slowed the game down too much, but again, I haven't played much and maybe I just haven't figured out the tables flow yet.
    I'm on the fence about the more realistic slingshots. On some tables I don't mind them, even like them, but on more frustrating tables like Age of Ultron, I find myself wishing for the old ones.
    My only real problem with ZP2, and I've said this before and know it's not something that can be changed, is how the proscore leaderboard got messed up by including every version of the soccer table. Chasing scores on that was what had me playing every single day for a really long time, but ever since the soccer table messed that up I've lost a lot of my ZP2 enthusiasm. If at all possible, when ZP3 comes out, could some please change it so that this doesn't happen. Maybe just include the highest score across all versions if a person owns more than one.
    Sorry, I kind of went off topic.
    Anyway, good work to all involved. I'm off to play some more.

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  • DarkKodiaK
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    Originally posted by tenorhero View Post

    Again the best part of the table is the shot where you hold the upper right flipper and shoot under it. Still a fun table.

    Still an overall great pack. It may not be for everybody but I'm enjoying the heck out them. Especially American Dad.
    Yea loving the American Dad table as well. As for that family guy shot, there are 2 shots that are similar on the Deadpool table. Under each upper flipper. Haven't really put too much time into bob's burgers yet, and family guy is kinda fun. Not my fav from the pack.

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  • tenorhero
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    Originally posted by DarkKodiaK View Post
    The Archer table is quickly becoming my favorite out of the pack. Mainly because it requires accuracy to hit the shots. You are punished for bad shots pretty severely, and hitting the ball too hard into the car can cause some problems with the uncertainty of how hard the ball is returned down into the flippers. It's not blatantly unfair like a few of those star wars tables can be, and in regards to the "flow" of the table. I find the flow to be just fine.

    As for the kickbacks, out of any of the tables in the pack getting the kickbacks on archer is easy enough. Hit the spinner till you make 2500$ in operations money. Hit the 3 SPY targets and visit the armory (the low right ramp). Purchase kickbacks.

    The one thing i do like about this table is that it's kinda set up against the multiball spam that's prevalent in a lot of other recent tables. You need to make a very quick shot up the danger zone ramp after you finish a mode/mission to lock a ball. Or hit krieger's robot arm a couple of times to activate a 2 ball mode. (i don't exactly know what activates it, but it's the easiest multiball to complete). The other multiball mode that i know if is a total PITA to get. You have to hang up on the phone when it's ringing (which always comes up at random times) and then lock the ball in the same spot.

    The various mission modes are well done and offer a variety where they don't get boring. I'm getting better at completing the various missions, but trying to get a lot of them done in the same game is challenging.

    This table isn't a blatantly unfair "Screw you" type of table. You just have to be careful with your shots and complete the modes to get good scores.
    Agree. Though Archer is still my second favorite of the pack. As you mentioned, this table is set up to avoid MB spam which is definitely a plague of some of the recent tables that have come. Most notably to me is Star Wars Episode 4 where you just get into the bumpers and hit them a certain amount and MB Starts. Jackpots Ramp up and soon you have 5 million a shot. Rinse, repeat, do a marathon, get high score. While reading the table guide, it even says it is to alleviate MB spam or different compared to the other tables.

    Getting MB isn't impossible on this table. It's random especially the one where the phone rings and you have to hit the target above the left sling shots, Which requires accurate shots. This would be my favorite table if it weren't for American Dad

    I'm having a blast with American Dad. The Threat level is an interesting mechanic on this table. I finally Noticed that the ball turns the color depending what threat level you are at. Also depending on the threat level the more points you score in the mode as timers vary. Very cool.

    There are 8 main modes that light up AMERICAN. From my experience you don't have to complete them. I lit American last night and got Wizard mode for the first time and the Achievement/trophy. It was kind of confusing at first though Finally got a 2 ball MB going. It's sort of an 'add a ball' MB which is also interesting rather than a straight up MB and get the most amount points.

    So much to do. Stacking modes galore. Just an overall fun table.

    Bob's Burgers will likely be a Spammable MB table. Hit the left spinner continually till Lock is lit. hit the center loop and viola 3 ball MB. I noticed I had 2 balls locked while it turned night. hit the left spinner to start 'Trick or Treat MB. daytime arrived and 2 balls were still locked. Not sure if that's a feature or MB just starts off right away hitting the Spinner till it light LOCK.

    Bob's Burgers is growing on me. It's actually a tough table to figure out. Perhaps it's because the Kickbacks are a bit harder to activate and Band Backs are a bit tougher to do. I find the ball goes in the out-lanes a lot. The only way to activate Kickback is to light LINDA Letters in the in/outlanes, you have several seconds to shoot the right loop behind the TINA targets and and then shoot the ball with the upper Left flipper. Still confusing on what light all your customers that you need to get to this tables 'Wizard' Mode. Crofts' most interesting table to date. His recent tables have been hit or miss. I think it's a hit.

    Family Guy is by far the easier table of the 2. My sons favorite table. You don't have to complete the modes much like Sorcerer's Lair. You do get more points when you do that adds to the 'Wizard' Mode of this table. The only tough thing about this table is getting shooting at targets on the left and right side just above the slings. It requires the accurate shot that's tough for most.


    I also find Kickbacks harder to get on this tables. It's not necessarily a bad thing. Though I do find it harder to do bang backs on Family guy, Bob's burgers, and Archer tables for some reason. American Dad I find it just as easy as earlier tables. I love challenging table like this where you have to work for your scores.

    Again the best part of the table is the shot where you hold the upper right flipper and shoot under it. Still a fun table.

    Still an overall great pack. It may not be for everybody but I'm enjoying the heck out them. Especially American Dad.

    That's all I have for now.

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