serious flipper lag

[Ozzpot]

I have no flipper lag.

Controller is updated and I use wireless controller w/ the microsoft rechargeable battery pack.

Same here. Both of my controllers are updated (I had to do so when I got my Turtle Beaches last month), and both use the Microsoft rechargeable pack, recharged with the play and charge kit.

Whether they're plugged in to the play and charge kit or not, whether they have my Turtle Beach headset plugged into them or not, there is never any lag. My TV is a 4 year old Samsung FullHD super slim LED in Game Mode.

[Icedry]

Same here. Both of my controllers are updated (I had to do so when I got my Turtle Beaches last month), and both use the Microsoft rechargeable pack, recharged with the play and charge kit.

Whether they're plugged in to the play and charge kit or not, whether they have my Turtle Beach headset plugged into them or not, there is never any lag. My TV is a 4 year old Samsung FullHD super slim LED in Game Mode.

Same here. The only lag I can see is not in the flippers but in the sitck, used to bump the tables.
but didn't notice any lag in normal flippers gameplay.

[MightyIronHead]

I just played Pinball FX 2 on my Xbox 360 to confirm that it is DEFINITELY working... and it is. The ONLY problem is with the Xbox One version. I can do a video of the Xbox 360 version if needed, but it plays as it should.

Are both consoles connected with HDMI or is the 360 using component cables? I know it's unlikely given how long HDMI has been around, but I thought I'd ask since it's something that could account for the difference.

[TheTerrorBeyond]

Are both consoles connected with HDMI or is the 360 using component cables? I know it's unlikely given how long HDMI has been around, but I thought I'd ask since it's something that could account for the difference.

Both are running through the same theater processor (Emotiva XMC-1) and into the television. The problem only occurs on the Xbox One, so the processor and cable have no effect. The cables are all Audioquest Carbon OR Cinnamon HDMI cables. There are no lip-sync issues on anything when watching video, so there is no processor delay, and the processor is not upscaling at all, it is simply providing pass-through.

[Nod Nolan]

Out of Interest..... does your TV appear on any of these databases?

http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/

http://www.rtings.com/info/input-lag-tvs

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/input-lag

if so what are the figures?

also what are you current display settings in the Xbox One settings? just so we can see what you're on.

[TheTerrorBeyond]

Out of Interest..... does your TV appear on any of these databases?

http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/

http://www.rtings.com/info/input-lag-tvs

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/input-lag

if so what are the figures?

also what are you current display settings in the Xbox One settings? just so we can see what you're on.

2013 80" Sharp LC-80LE857U 1080p 240hz 3D LED HDTV AVG 59ms Okay

This doesn't really come into play though, as the Xbox 360 version works perfectly.

Xbox One software version: 6.2.11653.0 (xb_rel_1410.141009-1648) fre
TV Resolution: 1080p
TV Connection: HDMI
Color depth: 36 bits per pixel
Color space: TV

Allow 50hz refresh is not checked.
Allow 3D is not checked.

[friedkarma]

For what its worth, I have no lag when I play at home. When I took my Xbone to a friend's house the lag made the game unplayable on his TV. We've never experienced lag like this with any other Xbone games, nor do we have this problem if we choose to play FX2 on 360.

[TheTerrorBeyond]

The lag remains with Xbox One software version 6.2.11765.0 (xb_rel_1411.141017-2100) fre.

[surf1der]

Just for troubleshooting purposes, have you verified that the TV is in game mode when playing the xbox 1? Also, have you tried directly connecting your xbox 1 to your television?

[TheTerrorBeyond]

Just for troubleshooting purposes, have you verified that the TV is in game mode when playing the xbox 1? Also, have you tried directly connecting your xbox 1 to your television?

Neither of these make a difference, as there is absolutely no problem with the Xbox 360.

[surf1der]

Neither of these make a difference, as there is absolutely no problem with the Xbox 360.

Actually they could depending on your setup. I have a universal remote which I have programmed to automatically switch on game mode on the TV when I select PS3 and turn it off when I select any other mode. When I first programmed the remote for the ps3 I forgot to do this and had lag. But maybe you don't have a universal remote and manually change the game mode setting. I don't know your setup so that is why I ask. These can be the little things that you might miss, especially with multiple devices using different settings.

You say your xbox 360 doesn't have any lag, did you connect your xbox one to the same HDMI port? I've found that some latency can still occur on AV receivers even if you disable image processing. I'm not sure if the receiver was faulty or if there was still some kind of image processing going on but when I connected my console directly to the tv the lag disappeared. The input lag you're experiencing might have nothing to do with your TV or receiver, but I tend to troubleshoot all possible sources of lag from my a/v equipment before I state that it is a problem with the game.

[Firebreak]

Hi folks,

I gave up on this game a while ago because of this issue. However, I may have come across something that you folks can help me test. I have noticed input lag in pinball FX2, Battlefield 4, Titanfall, and most recently, NHL 15.

I have always suspected that the issue is not software related, but was always baffled as to why some people seem to experience it, and others don't.

A few days ago, something dawned on me while reading a thread on the XBOX forums about the quality of the X1 controllers. I'm not a heavy user, only play maybe 1 hour a day, if I get the chance. Still using my original controller. However, I had bought a second controller so I would have one if ever my wife wants to play a game with me. It has only been used by her a couple times.

I decided to swap my controller with this hardly used one to see if there's any difference, and though I want to test this some more, there definitely seems to be a problem with my original controller, and not the one purchased later.

If you happen to have multiple controllers, I ask that you try them all and post your results. My guess at this point is that there is a bad revision of the early controllers out there. Hopefully not affecting the newer ones.

Thanks!

[TheTerrorBeyond]

Actually they could depending on your setup. I have a universal remote which I have programmed to automatically switch on game mode on the TV when I select PS3 and turn it off when I select any other mode. When I first programmed the remote for the ps3 I forgot to do this and had lag. But maybe you don't have a universal remote and manually change the game mode setting. I don't know your setup so that is why I ask. These can be the little things that you might miss, especially with multiple devices using different settings.

You say your xbox 360 doesn't have any lag, did you connect your xbox one to the same HDMI port? I've found that some latency can still occur on AV receivers even if you disable image processing. I'm not sure if the receiver was faulty or if there was still some kind of image processing going on but when I connected my console directly to the tv the lag disappeared. The input lag you're experiencing might have nothing to do with your TV or receiver, but I tend to troubleshoot all possible sources of lag from my a/v equipment before I state that it is a problem with the game.

Everything runs into the HDMI in ports of the Emotiva XMC-1 and out the HDMI 1 output of the processor to the television. The processor is an audio processor that passes video through unmolested. The television uses the same input at all times.

There is no difference between the Xbox 360 and the Xbox One in the way that they are connected to the television and there is no lag on other games on the Xbox One. I would not be able to play a shooter on the Xbox One if the lag was like it is on the pinball game.

Now, please watch the video I posted below... I am sure you weren't attempting to be condescending, but it came off that way. It is a problem with the game.

[TheTerrorBeyond]

Hi folks,

I gave up on this game a while ago because of this issue. However, I may have come across something that you folks can help me test. I have noticed input lag in pinball FX2, Battlefield 4, Titanfall, and most recently, NHL 15.

I have always suspected that the issue is not software related, but was always baffled as to why some people seem to experience it, and others don't.

A few days ago, something dawned on me while reading a thread on the XBOX forums about the quality of the X1 controllers. I'm not a heavy user, only play maybe 1 hour a day, if I get the chance. Still using my original controller. However, I had bought a second controller so I would have one if ever my wife wants to play a game with me. It has only been used by her a couple times.

I decided to swap my controller with this hardly used one to see if there's any difference, and though I want to test this some more, there definitely seems to be a problem with my original controller, and not the one purchased later.

If you happen to have multiple controllers, I ask that you try them all and post your results. My guess at this point is that there is a bad revision of the early controllers out there. Hopefully not affecting the newer ones.

Thanks!

I will test this and let you know what I find. One of the kids has a couple of extra controllers for his Xbox One and I will key it up and let you know. I will be using a Titanfall controller to test.

[TheTerrorBeyond]

Here is a video showing the Xbox One and the Xbox 360. Both consoles are running into the same processor and out into the same input on the television.

http://youtu.be/mnl29220vEU