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  • #16
    Originally posted by Phantasystar77 View Post
    I used to support both the Sony, and MS games, but now its strictly Sony.
    Even after their PSN-downtime twice in the last weeks? Isn't there a FAQ from Sony as well about PSN?

    I appreciate the point you're trying to make but for some reason it seems everything is about you and not about how Zen, Microsoft and affiliates are trying very hard publicly to resolve the issue!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by OctagonQontrol View Post
      Even after their PSN-downtime twice in the last weeks? Isn't there a FAQ from Sony as well about PSN?

      I appreciate the point you're trying to make but for some reason it seems everything is about you and not about how Zen, Microsoft and affiliates are trying very hard publicly to resolve the issue!
      Yes PSN was hit, but so was Microsoft. Trust me I experienced it first hand while trying to play online with friends. I have no clue about a PSN faq regarding this table. However on the games page in the Playstation store on PS3 it is listed as a crossbuy on PS3, and Vita. It pretty much says this for all the tables, but everyone of them so far has been crossbuy. The Walking Dead is the only table I have not yet purchased on the Sony platform and was going to purchase it today, but im starting to question if I should.

      So where did I say it was all about me? Im personally upset because I feel mislead. Im sure many others felt mislead as well and I feel upset for those too. So show me where they have been trying very hard publicly to resolve this issue for this particular table? I know they publicly did before the game first hit and delayed it. Once the game released a few weeks back and it was announced crossbuy was in, I purchased all the XBox tables I was missing and easily imported them into the XBox One version the day it hit. I thought it would be no different for this version so I purchased the table on 360 the day before the X1 version was released. If they had a warning on the purchase page I would have gladly skipped out on the 360 version and purchased in on PS3 first and simply waited until a 360 to X1 crossbuy was available. If one wasn't going to hit, I wouldn't have bought that version at all.

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      • #18
        Microsoft and Zen can only put the information that TWD table will not transfer from X360 to X1 and that they are working to address this issue in so many places. If they had the means to beam it directly into your brain, they probably wouldn't hesitate. However, since this is reality, at a certain point it falls to you to actually meet them halfway and read it. Instead of jumping the gun and then running here to fume about how "I thought the thing I was buying was different than it is!" perhaps you should take some responsibility for how you spend your money before you spend it.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by TV_Junkie View Post
          Microsoft and Zen can only put the information that TWD table will not transfer from X360 to X1 and that they are working to address this issue in so many places. If they had the means to beam it directly into your brain, they probably wouldn't hesitate. However, since this is reality, at a certain point it falls to you to actually meet them halfway and read it. Instead of jumping the gun and then running here to fume about how "I thought the thing I was buying was different than it is!" perhaps you should take some responsibility for how you spend your money before you spend it.
          Oh yes, I should take responsibility and search the internet for faqs before investing $3. Get real, its a $3 table and not a car. You clearly did not read what I actually said in my post. The cross buy debate was all over the internet. However the problem with this table was not. Now I want you to show me all of these places that I should have known to go before investing the huge sum of $3? I do not want to hear lots of places. I want to see stories off major gaming websites about the Walking Dead table not transferring. I do not want to see stories that were somehow updated or changed from the original either. Im not psychic and do not know when I particular company is going to edit a month old story to reflect something new. Maybe you and a few others in here have this gift, but I do not. I am not a frequent visitor here either, and judging off the size of this forum, I doubt most people who are buying Zen product are either.

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          • #20
            Oh yes, I should take responsibility and search the internet for faqs before investing $3. Get real, its a $3 table and not a car.
            That's a small amount of money, but apparently not small enough for this not to be an issue for you.

            The cross buy debate was all over the internet.
            Yes, after some time had passed following the original announcement.

            However the problem with this table was not.
            It will be, after some time passes.

            I want to see stories off major gaming websites about the Walking Dead table not transferring.
            Show me one that said it would.

            Do some light Internet research before you purchase, or don't. Whatever. As you said, it's a meager $3 expense. But nowhere in the Store did it say you would be getting it for both consoles. So don't come here and jump down Zen's throat about how you were "mislead" while it is still an issue they hope to resolve for you. Despite wanting to play it on Xbox One, you decided to buy it on Xbox 360, and you have two options. Option 1: make another meager $3 purchase and download it now. Option 2: Wait to see if they are able to implement the ability to import the table for free, which - like all things - will take precisely as long as it takes.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by TV_Junkie View Post
              That's a small amount of money, but apparently not small enough for this not to be an issue for you.


              Yes, after some time had passed following the original announcement.


              It will be, after some time passes.


              Show me one that said it would.

              Do some light Internet research before you purchase, or don't. Whatever. As you said, it's a meager $3 expense. But nowhere in the Store did it say you would be getting it for both consoles. So don't come here and jump down Zen's throat about how you were "mislead" while it is still an issue they hope to resolve for you. Despite wanting to play it on Xbox One, you decided to buy it on Xbox 360, and you have two options. Option 1: make another meager $3 purchase and download it now. Option 2: Wait to see if they are able to implement the ability to import the table for free, which - like all things - will take precisely as long as it takes.

              I stated before that it was the idea of it. There was no warning on the purchase page. I was under the impression it would be based off all the original negative press on the internet, that got reversed when Microsoft allowed it. The game even got delayed a few weeks to fix the issue. To my knowledge they didn't state that only certain tables would be crossbuy and possibly not future ones. So even though it had not stated it in the store, given all the negative press the issue first had, I (and im sure many others) assumed it was crossbuy.

              Anyway, I chose my own option and purchased the table on PS3, and now I also have it on PS4, and Vita at no extra cost. I will not be spending another $3 for it on XBox One, and will not purchase anymore tables on a Microsoft platform for the time being. In the future if for some reason they fix this issue, I will be purchasing tables on that platform again.

              So, im still waiting for all these places it Zen announced there would be issues with this table. So far you have not produced a single major gaming site, or official announcement that was not edited that told this was not going to work with crossbuy. If it was as big as you claim then you should have no problem finding several links from the biggest including Kotaku, Joystiq, or EGM Now. I'd say IGN as well, but that site has very low credibility with me and I rarely visit.
              I'll say it again since most people do not read, NO EDITS FROM OLD STORIES! Until you can produce such, this debate is over since you cannot back your claims.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Phantasystar77 View Post
                So, im still waiting for all these places it Zen announced there would be issues with this table. So far you have not produced a single major gaming site, or official announcement that was not edited that told this was not going to work with crossbuy. If it was as big as you claim then you should have no problem finding several links from the biggest including Kotaku, Joystiq, or EGM Now. I'd say IGN as well, but that site has very low credibility with me and I rarely visit.
                I'll say it again since most people do not read, NO EDITS FROM OLD STORIES! Until you can produce such, this debate is over since you cannot back your claims.
                Originally posted by BarbieBobomb View Post
                Pinball FX2 on Xbox One FAQ – Updated 8/26/2014

                Update regarding new releases being added to Xbox One: The Walking Dead Pinball table will not be able to import from Xbox 360 to Xbox One at launch. We are continuing to work with Microsoft in regards to how new tables will transfer from Xbox 360 to Xbox One, but no decision has been finalized at this point. If we can make it happen, the imports/transfers would go from Xbox 360 to Xbox One only, as we are doing now with legacy content. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
                What more do you want? It was posted in The Walking Dead launch trailer thread, to read the official FAQ due to an important announcement.

                I managed it, as I am sure many others did also, what stopped you?

                You have the internet, you have Google, use them.


                Hit me up on Twitch @BBIAJ

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                • #23
                  And I'll continue to wait for you to produce a "Major Gaming Site" that said that it was cross buy. Because apparently the website belonging to the developer responsible for the game in question saying that it isn't cross buy at launch isn't a valid enough source. Pretty amazing that it's the obvious place to complain about the game but it'd never occur to you to spend two minutes here prior to making a purchase.

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                  • #24
                    Throw me in the pile of users that feel mislead.

                    You can not convince me that this is such a complicated issue that this shouldn't already be resolved. Don't be fooled there is nothing to "import" here. Nothing moves from your 360 to the XB1. It's a simple case of PBFX2 looking at your MS account and seeing if you have already purchased the table or not for the 360. It does that check for the other PBFX2 tables and there is no excuse for it not doing it on TWD table. I can look on my 360 and see it was purchased. I can go on Xbox.com and see it was purchased. I'm sure PBFX2 can also go online and see I have it purchased. The question is...why have they chose to not let me dl the table on my XB1 like all of the other XB1 tables?

                    If they have the system in place for the other 360 tables it should be in place here. I think they are just looking for an extra $2.99 from impatient (and loyal) customers of their product.

                    I was upset with the achievement glitches and they resolved that. I will consider this the same thing. I thought my boycott on Zen was lifted since I was awarded my gamerscore for my unlocked achievements. I guess it's time for a new boycott: No more purchases (on 360 or XB1) until they get their act together and offer cross buy on day 1 of the XB1 table release.

                    I should not have to run to the internet and look for a faqs every time Zen releases a new table. As a matter of fact I still don't see where it mentions anything about TWD table not being cross buy now (except for people on various threads saying it BS and they feel deceived).

                    Doug - (owner of 53 PBRX2 tables on the 360 and not 1 more until someone gets their act together)
                    Last edited by DugFreez; 08-30-2014, 10:04 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Boycotting Zen over glitched Achievements?

                      I think I've heard it all now! Wow, just wow...

                      Why not boycott Microsoft for all the times that Xbox LIVE has gone down, and sell your 360 and One by that logic?


                      Hit me up on Twitch @BBIAJ

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by TV_Junkie View Post
                        And I'll continue to wait for you to produce a "Major Gaming Site" that said that it was cross buy. Because apparently the website belonging to the developer responsible for the game in question saying that it isn't cross buy at launch isn't a valid enough source. Pretty amazing that it's the obvious place to complain about the game but it'd never occur to you to spend two minutes here prior to making a purchase.
                        Stop trying to avoid what I asked. I said unedited from an older post, and I want multiple sources. You claimed it was all over, so how about producing some evidence from multiple sources to back your claim. Again since you obviously cannot read too well, im not going to search the internet and do intensive research over something that cost $3. It is the idea of the whole thing and not the cost. Given the entire problem lack of crossbuy caused before, and that many people assumed it was fixed, it was only logical to believe the problem actually was fixed. I simply feel mislead and nothing more. This is a concept too difficult for many here to grasp, so im going to stop posting about this before it erupts into a flame war.

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                        • #27
                          Bought Walking Dead on xbox360, but charges me again on Xbox One...

                          *post removed for containing too much 'tude, apologies*
                          Last edited by BBIAJ; 09-03-2014, 04:09 AM.

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                          • #28
                            I too was under the impression that walking dead would be cross-buy regardless of all the people arguing pathetically you should have read the FAQ. I'm pretty sure alot of people are under that impression as well with the cross buy compatibility. You can bury whatever you want under documents but in a court of law you can argue under public assumption that the company was not completely clear in their offer. Pretty damn sure theres alot of users who were under the impression that the crossbuy from 360 to one also included walking dead as well


                            Older tables not importing fine i can understand compatibility issues but the walking dead which was just released? Not sure why this wasnt day 1 crossbuy

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                            • #29
                              In the original blog post announcing the release of the table, i.e., the original source of any information which you would have read secondhand on any of your precious major gaming sites, posted one day prior to the release of the table on 360 and two days prior to its launch on X1, unedited, it directs you to the FAQ regarding import details. There, it is clearly stated that you won't immediately be able to import TWD from 360 to X1, yet they are working to make it happen. Did they have to edit that post? Sure, that's how a message board works. The launch of the table hadn't been announced when the post was made in July. But it was updated before the announcement in the developer's blog post. No "intensive research" required here, simply the ability to pay attention. If any of your "major gaming sites" had news items about the launch of this table, they could have simply done some light journalism, a.k.a. their jobs, they could have included that information in their articles. If anyone has let you down, it's those sites.

                              I never once claimed that it was all over, check my posts. They're all unedited. But I think it's a bit silly that you need something like that to be verified by even one, let alone multiple secondhand sources, and the information coming directly from the developer is not good enough. From where exactly is it that you think gaming sites get their information?

                              Given the entire problem lack of crossbuy caused before, and that many people assumed it was fixed, it was only logical to believe the problem actually was fixed.
                              Given the lack of crossbuy before, and the fact that it pushed the launch of the game back two weeks, it's only logical to take two minutes to be certain.

                              im going to stop posting about this before it erupts into a flame war.
                              In that spirit, I'm simply going to say this: I have no doubt that they will ultimately enable TWD to be imported from 360 to X1, and likely other tables. It'll probably even take less than two weeks. I wouldn't expect it right away - it's a holiday weekend - but obviously Zen has no issue with this as that's how it works on PSN. And it's not like Microsoft is going to just say, "Eh, that's good enough, we don't need to compete with Sony anymore..."

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                              • #30
                                well i hope they can give an answer soon. I can wait if that's the case. Mainly pissed because i bought it for 360 so i could import it to x1. And yes not everyone reads the fine print when an offer is made and you can make an argument that the regardless the company wasn't completely up front in that regard. Alot of people heard publicly okay issues with transferring content over and then okay you guys are good to go.

                                I assumed being a new table that wouldn't be the issue. The older ones yes i can understand the compatibility issues

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