Purchased FX 1 tables are playable, but listed as not "bought". How to redownload?

[haomaru]

Hi,

I simply love Pinball FX. The tables are just like the real thing (with welcome gentle enchantments that are only possible in a video game), you get virtually endless replay value and all that for 240 per table. Amazing!
Since Pinball FX 1 I buy any new released table day one.

I bought all tables for Pinball FX 1 and after Pinball FX 2 was released I imported them to the second game. I can play all 21 released tables with no problem whatsoever. But when I check Pinball FX 2 in the xbox marketplace the following older tables are not listed as "bought":

- Pinball FX Classics Collection (Speed Machine, Extreme, Agents, Buccaneer)
- Nightmare Mansion
- Rocky and Bullwinkle
- Street Fighter 2

Under System Settings -> Memory -> Hard Drive -> Games -> Pinball FX 2 all of the above tables are listed as "Marketplace Content" (including "Pinball FX Classics Collection") as any other newer table like Splosion Man is.

Apparently the importing procedure of the old tables did not update the licenses. If, for any reason, I have to replace my xbox hdd, where can I redownload these 7 previously purchased older tables? The first game is no longer listed in the marketplace. Will I have to buy my tables again? Has it anything to do that I did not delete Pinball FX 1?

Last resort would be the dashboard download history, but after countless downloads (demos, dlc, xbla games, games on demand, indie games...) good luck finding a game bought years ago.

I assume that many gamers share this problem, but are simply not aware of it.
Anyone who imported the older tables into the sequel, please post if these tables are listed to you as "not bought".
Also I would be glad to hear any official solution for the redownloading of older tables and making the marketplace recognize these tables as purchased from the Zen team.

Thanks in advance
haomaru

p.s.: Putting the Sorcerer table in the table view with the download attempt resulting in an error message was a cruel thing to do. I read the official post about it being Microsoft's fault but again: it was pure torture!

[lexandro]

If you have to replace them, all you need to do is download FX2 again and the old tables will be activated automatically. The marketplace content your listing is for people to buy the old tables in the new game. Remember that all the tables were reworked for FX2 and given for free to previous owners. So in effect you have not bought them, and thats why they dont show up as purchased.

[fubar]

also, if you need to re-download them, you can use the license transfer tool on microsoft's website to provision the tables to a new XBOX (once per year)

[haomaru]

Now I understand it. Technically I did not buy these 7 old tables in FX 2 - Zen just allows users to play the updated version of the older tables for free in FX 2 for those who owned them in FX 1. That's why Excalibur and Earth Defense are displayed as bought: I did buy them from inside FX 2. The other old tables I bought from inside FX 1. Thanks lexandro.

I find this a little counter intuitive. If FX 1 buyers can play their old tables in FX 2 for free anyway, why not give them officially the respective FX 2 table license in order to avoid confusion? Probably a complicated-marketing-license-business-guide-line thing.

Maybe the blue's sticky Faq posting could be updated to assure new players that they do not have to repurchase the old tables they once bought and that they don't have to worry about that the FX 1 tables show up as not bought in the marketplace:

Q: How do I import my original tables into Pinball FX 2?

Upon launching Pinball FX 2 for the first time, your Marketplace licenses will be checked. A message will pop-up allowing you to download the new versions of any previously owned Pinball FX tables.

[blue]

I find this a little counter intuitive. If FX 1 buyers can play their old tables in FX 2 for free anyway, why not give them officially the respective FX 2 table license in order to avoid confusion?

DRM

All Marketplace content grants the owner two licenses: one for the gamertag, and one for the serial number of the Xbox 360 on which it is purchased. If Pinball FX 2 triggered a new license download upon seeing Pinball FX content, owners of existing tables could give them away to friends since the platform is a free download.

In other words, Pinball FX 2 accepts licenses from Pinball FX. It's smarter to allow players to download the new content when the old license exists, rather than grant a new license when the old content exists.

Maybe the blue's sticky Faq posting could be updated to assure new players that they do not have to repurchase the old tables they once bought and that they don't have to worry about that the FX 1 tables show up as not bought in the marketplace:

Please read the question prior to the one you quoted. The FAQ explains that the DLC for Pinball FX and Pinball FX 2 are separate, and that only the Pinball FX 2 versions are available for purchase on the Marketplace. Owners of Pinball FX content receive a complimentary download of the equivalent tables for Pinball FX 2 rather than a new license.