Official Avengers Table Thread

[lasvegaspinballhalloffame]

Just got nearly 1.5 billion on this table.Wizard Mode is awesome!!

[_Mr.E_]

This table is fun . . . I like it a lot. *thumbs up*

Sure are a lot of rules though! It's hard for me to remember how it all works!

[Loc_Dog_]

I'm starting to love this table. Though that tendency it has to drain balls down the left outlane straight from the widow ramp is affecting my love somewhat. It's not like noone noticed in testing, so it's a pretty f*cking stupid design decision. I mean a failed ramp going SDTM is fair enough, but a successful ramp leading to a drain you can't do anything about?!!?!?!? Do I have to nudge (assuming that works at all here) everytime just to make sure?

That is my exact opinion of the Blade table and a similar ramp.

Really have to agree with these two. Black Widow ramp is driving me crazy, Blade is one of the tables I'm worst at and really hate that "kickback" ramp because not only can I not hit it with a aimed shot at all hardly (and there are missions that need it) but if I do hit it with any decent speed it goes SDTM randomly, especially during multi-balls...no reaction time on that.

And IMO there is no real help trying to nudge the Black Widow, I tried this for a while and nudging seemed to make the problem worse like it forced it to drain even more often. But maybe it's just me. Still I broke a billion on this table (barely). Only have a handfull of those and Avengers hardly took me any time at all. WWH seems a bit easier overall but still haven't beat wizard mish even with 2 (almost 3) attempts in one game (got like 950mill, was so Hulk sad/angry/happy...hurts when your so close to that billion).

[Loc_Dog_]

As far as ball picking strategy, someone else posted something that is almost exactly like what I've been doing for this table.

Start Hawkeye, hitting his and Black Widow's ramps to get kickback(s) started while opening up the first lock for the Quinjet MB. Then Black Widow, usually trying to knock out her mission but might start the Quinjet by accident. Usually then Captain while trying to get his ExtraBall or Hulk just because he too much fun with his Hulk Smash power shaking the table and grabbing at thin at during his mission or 'rastlin with Thor after the spinner/bumper mission start.

Sometimes though the Hulk bumpers can be super annoying especially when a timer is ticking down (like the part where Iron Man is supposed to repair the Quinjet) and the ball just stays in the bumpers forever and a half. Especially when it's just 1,000 points and bouncing low so no Skillshot upping...

Anyone got the Skillshot pegged yet? I'm still pretty horrible at it, I just hold the plunger all the way, let it relax a tick, and hope it drops on the blinky.

[rapierdwit]

Anyone else playing on view 6 and sick to death of Thor jumping between the flippers and blocking your view? Or the Quinnjet doing the same?

[DarkKodiaK]

As far as ball picking strategy, someone else posted something that is almost exactly like what I've been doing for this table.

Start Hawkeye, hitting his and Black Widow's ramps to get kickback(s) started while opening up the first lock for the Quinjet MB. Then Black Widow, usually trying to knock out her mission but might start the Quinjet by accident. Usually then Captain while trying to get his ExtraBall or Hulk just because he too much fun with his Hulk Smash power shaking the table and grabbing at thin at during his mission or 'rastlin with Thor after the spinner/bumper mission start.

Anyone got the Skillshot pegged yet? I'm still pretty horrible at it, I just hold the plunger all the way, let it relax a tick, and hope it drops on the blinky.

Skill shot for me, is that if it's the middle lane, leave about 4 springs visible before you shoot to hit the middle. Adjust lighter shot for right lane, pull back a bit more for the left lane.

For the start of the game, I go with captian america and try to get an extra ball right away with the 8 way combo. If i screw up this combo along the way and i hit the target under loki and lock a ball, I switch to iron man so you can do the repair the hellicarrier mission. At first i thought this was difficult, now I'm having no problems clearing it.

After that i'll do hawkeye open up the jet, then use black widdow... do her easy mission, then lock the ball if I already didn't accidentally do it and start the jet multiball.

after that, just leaves thor's mission, hulk/duplicates.

[lasvegaspinballhalloffame]

Anyone else playing on view 6 and sick to death of Thor jumping between the flippers and blocking your view? Or the Quinnjet doing the same?

Yep. Iron Man will get in the way some times too.

[lasvegaspinballhalloffame]

Does anyone know of all the ways you can get an extra ball on this table?

[Loc_Dog_]

Does anyone know of all the ways you can get an extra ball on this table?

Haven't looked at the rule sheet lately but I keep getting one randomly during Wizard mode, usually when the ball is trapped up in the bumpers? Both my billion games this has happened, got one for CA ball combo and one during Wizard mode. No idea what triggered it, just heard ole Nick Fury announce it. Was pretty cool though something I didn't notice the first time. When you pass a billion there is a big message that rolls across the scorebox "WELCOME TO THE BILLIONAIRES CLUB!"...guess it's Tony Stark who welcomes ya

[Evolve or die]

Does the Quinjet 2 ball mission have a conclusion or does it just keep going until you lose a ball?

And Solitude replied to my PM about the Widow ramp skullduggery and said that it's definitely not supposed to be like that (random drains) and that they're looking into it. He shares our pain, coz it happens to him too.

I still wished it was picked up in testing, as it (almost) ruins a beautiful table.

That Iron Man ramp under pressure (repair quinjet or Hulk/Widow missions) can be a real bitch, I love it. I try to go up the Cap ramp coz it then drops it down onto the cross flipper at a slower speed than the outside orbit lanes. But then I try to hit it across and I'm just in the Loki mishief targets... grr. Gotta get that timing down better.

[shogun00]

Does the Quinjet 2 ball mission have a conclusion or does it just keep going until you lose a ball?

It keeps on going and going and going, until you lose a ball.

And Solitude replied to my PM about the Widow ramp skullduggery and said that it's definitely not supposed to be like that (random drains) and that they're looking into it. He shares our pain, coz it happens to him too.

The easiest fix would be to do the same thing that they did with the Saber Tooth spinner on the Wolverine table. Just turn on the ball save for a couple of seconds after it hits the gate or rollover.

[Loc_Dog_]

Does the Quinjet 2 ball mission have a conclusion or does it just keep going until you lose a ball?

And Solitude replied to my PM about the Widow ramp skullduggery and said that it's definitely not supposed to be like that (random drains) and that they're looking into it. He shares our pain, coz it happens to him too.

I still wished it was picked up in testing, as it (almost) ruins a beautiful table.

That Iron Man ramp under pressure (repair quinjet or Hulk/Widow missions) can be a real bitch, I love it. I try to go up the Cap ramp coz it then drops it down onto the cross flipper at a slower speed than the outside orbit lanes. But then I try to hit it across and I'm just in the Loki mishief targets... grr. Gotta get that timing down better.

I think you kinda answered your own question, I think the only "end" to the Quinjet is the repair part w/ the Iron Man ramp. There was a point where I was even trying to hit the Avenger HQ right when this happens b/c it spits out Iron Man ball for a 4x boost on that ramp but it is tricky like you said...so now I just try to hit it w/ whatever ball I got.

It makes me smile when I get that ramp like 4-5+ times in a row b/c of that, really helps w/ getting that Captain America extra-ball if you can get good/lucky on that ramp.

[Loc_Dog_]

The easiest fix would be to do the same thing that they did with the Saber Tooth spinner on the Wolverine
table. Just turn on the ball save for a couple of seconds after it hits the gate or rollover.

BOOM! Let's get this done!

I always wondered if that had been a "fix" or someone had just had good foresight b/c it would be really frustrating to get continuously punished for a made shot. Like someone on here said somewhere, it's somewhat understandable with a "missed" ramp shot like say the Hawkeye ramp (if you go only halfway and don't time the rebound right it drains really quickly)...

[Cantido]

I'm fed up with The Avengers table and I ain't playing it anymore.

* The skillshot accuracy is beyond what is possible with my naked eyes and a large 1080p HDTV can see. Fear Itself, Thor, WWH and Ghost Rider do this too. This is a worrying trend that needs to die.
* You start missions by hitting a wall of targets that knock your ball near the center drain over and over. Whoever thought of this needs to be punished by having to play El Dorado without pressing Restart over and over so they re-learn their lesson about why you don't do that.
* Thor's fat ass occasionally jumps to the right side of the table, blocking the player's view of the entire right lanes, getting me killed over and over.
* Occasionally, the left gate between the inner and outer left lanes decides to stop working and dump the ball in the drain, punishing the player for successfully hitting a ramp.

[rapierdwit]

I'm fed up with The Avengers table and I ain't playing it anymore.

Personally, I am filing The Avengers, along with Agents, under tables I won't be playing until it the issues get fixed. There should to be an option to disable the character animations on this (and all) tables. It is Unfortunate that, currently, the frustration outweighs the fun on this table. I would be more upset if this was not part of a "pack" but I can always fall back on the other three tables for now. I have to throw out another vote in favor of "proper" beta testing of the tables; a couple of veteran/true PBFX2 pinball players could have put a list of issues together in a very short time...as everyone one here has proven since release.