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  • Originally posted by Tberg View Post

    Somebody said, that Thor randomly blocks the view in his mission. He only switches side when you hit the opposit lane left or right from where he is standing, so you can evade Loki's attacks.
    Right and that is the Thor mission alone that you are referring to, the one I was talking about is the Hulk and Thor battle on the left side of the table their characters block the left outlane all together.
    Last edited by Crazy Bonus; 08-18-2012, 06:33 PM.
    Bonus multiplier goes nuts on drains

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    • The black widow ramp is an epic fail. Just totallt uncalled for, but what's mroe, it does sort of ruin the fun of playing this table. Just like some of the challenges on variosu tables are just way too much/hard. That's one reason their actual Rocky & Bullwinkle game flopped. Some parts were just way too ridiculously hard.
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      • About the thingy in the left outlane failing sometimes after a shot to the Black Widow ramp, thus sending the ball down the drain, I have a "theory".

        Have you guys noticed the Black Widow ball feels kinda heavier than the rest? Well, i'm not 100% sure, but i think i have yet to suffer a "left outlane rollover fail" after sending the Black Widow ball to the the BW ramp. I think maybe the "random" fail after BW ramp shots might be more intended than not when using any other ball than the BW ball. Why? To encourage the use of the proper ball for BW ramp shots and increase the Jackpots-Mission rewards.

        Think about it, the key to score big in this table is to increase and eventually max the Jackpots-Mission Rewards by repeatedly shooting up the BW ramp, then proceed to complete missions up to the crazy Wizard mode. And it's not a really hard ramp to get the ball to, after all.
        By making this key ramp shot somewhat unrelieable when not using the proper ball (the Black Widow ball), Zen might have very cleverly gimped "mindless" grinding your way to big scores, increasing the table difficulty in a very subtle way.

        As i said, i'm not completely sure about this, but i have a very strong feeling that the Black Widow ball feels "diferent/heavier", and that it has an easier way through the left outlane passthrough thingy. It'd be great if you guys tried BW ramp shots with the BW ball and notice if it drains too. An official reply from a Zen insider would be the icing in the cake. Maybe one of the top scorers in the leaderboard could have some insight in this, too.

        Anyway, even if it was not an intended feature and it does drain randomly regardless the ball you use, i still kinda like it. It makes you much more careful when trying to raise your Jackpots, forcing you to have either the left kickback or the ballsave active. If you haven't noticed, it's a ramp that has no other purpose other than raising your Jackpots, you always have other choices during missions with no safenet (i.e. multiball missions), and you can't really fail missions anyway. c

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        • Originally posted by nomilarac View Post
          About the thingy in the left outlane failing sometimes after a shot to the Black Widow ramp, thus sending the ball down the drain, I have a "theory".

          Have you guys noticed the Black Widow ball feels kinda heavier than the rest? Well, i'm not 100% sure, but i think i have yet to suffer a "left outlane rollover fail" after sending the Black Widow ball to the the BW ramp. I think maybe the "random" fail after BW ramp shots might be more intended than not when using any other ball than the BW ball. Why? To encourage the use of the proper ball for BW ramp shots and increase the Jackpots-Mission rewards.
          Interesting theory, but Zen has already confirmed that it was just a glitch. They have already fixed it on Zen Pinball 2 and hopefully they will release out a patch to fix it on Pinball FX 2, when MS stops being so stingy on patches.

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          • Originally posted by shogun00 View Post
            Interesting theory, but Zen has already confirmed that it was just a glitch. They have already fixed it on Zen Pinball 2 and hopefully they will release out a patch to fix it on Pinball FX 2, when MS stops being so stingy on patches.
            Bah, so much for my theorizing. Also, i did further testings and the Black Widow ball does sometimes too go down the left outlane after succesful black widow ramp shots, so just forget what i wrote about it. Let's hope they patch it soon for us PFX2 players.

            I think, though, it'd be nice if subtleties as the one i described as a possible explanation of this particular bug made its way to some PFX/Zen table someday.

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            • I do not think that this is a glitch cause I still have it on PS3. I think nomilarac's theory is quite accurate.

              I mean, I had ball sinks no matter of what ball I used but I agree with nomicarc that the sink on a gate is on purpouse to prevent jackpot bonus grinding.

              Do you still have ball sinks via Widow ramp on XBOX?

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              • Still there

                When I was running through this table the first time - about a month ago - I didn't notice it. Or at least I thought I didn't; I had a hard time figuring out which left lanes were the inlanes and the outlanes. Then after reading this thread, I ran into the Widow glitch a bunch while working on the EOB guide; now I know what was happening. Bleh...

                Anways..

                End of Ball bonus guide

                Multipliers are raised by hitting the Iron Man ramp. It takes 2 shots with the Iron Man ball, and 4 shots with the others.

                Base bonus

                50,000 points per ball

                Avengers chosen bonus

                100,000 points per Avenger chosen per ball
                It looks like this appears anytime you are prompted to chose an Avenger, including the beginning.

                Modes started bonus

                10,000 points per mode started per ball

                Modes completed bonus

                1 million points per mode completed per ball

                Summary - not much going on. The majority of your EOB bonus will come from completing missions. If you complete enough missions you can amass a decent amount of points by raising the multiplier - it goes up to 20x. But given the work involved, and the risk should you miss a shot, I wouldn't recommend focusing on this much.
                Tables completed: Ms Splosion Man, Spiderman, BioLab, Captain America, Empire Strikes Back, The Avengers, Wolverine, World War Hulk, Sorcerer's Lair, Fantastic Four, Blade, X-Men, Thor, Moon Knight, Infinity Gauntlet, Super League Football, Starfighter Assault, Han Solo
                Billionaire's Club: Spider-Man, World War Hulk, The Avengers, Sorcerer's Lair, Empire Strikes Back, Captain America, Ms. Splosion Man, Han Solo

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