Zen Classics are coming to Pinball FX2!

[tenorhero]

Was expecting Christmas cheers and joy for this present. BUT

First two replys... Seriously... Zen works their tails off for us, and they get this response?

Oh, i forgot, we got too many "entitled" gamers who think Zen should revolve around them. Curiously from the PS3 crowd.

You don't think I respect Zen? Wow I just clearly commented on what PS3 players would like as well. Barbie did explain what's going on and I do understand that. It would be the same way if PS3 players got some your tables. Talk about entitlement.

Most likely it will happen but the 360 won out right now. If it happens, That's great. I just hope it's sooner rather than later.

Sorry Barbie I'm usually show restraint but this one seemed to be persistent and probably didn't read further into the thread.

[Rafie]

Was expecting Christmas cheers and joy for this present. BUT

First two replys... Seriously... Zen works their tails off for us, and they get this response?

Oh, i forgot, we got too many "entitled" gamers who think Zen should revolve around them. Curiously from the PS3 crowd.

No need in ripping off the band-aid on a fresh wound. It's over now. The PS3 crowd has a right to be upset, just not like that though (threats and harassment).

[The Albin0 Rhin0]

Was expecting Christmas cheers and joy for this present. BUT

First two replys... Seriously... Zen works their tails off for us, and they get this response?

Oh, i forgot, we got too many "entitled" gamers who think Zen should revolve around them. Curiously from the PS3 crowd.

[BarbieBobomb]

Interesting. Maybe something like you choose 3+ tables for a "playlist". Lose a ball and move on to the next table. That would keep things refreshing, although that would be something for the more casual player, since you couldn't really get high scores going like that.

You're making my head explode. AWESOME.

[Rafie]

Interesting. Maybe something like you choose 3+ tables for a "playlist". Lose a ball and move on to the next table. That would keep things refreshing, although that would be something for the more casual player, since you couldn't really get high scores going like that.

+1 I actually like that idea. That sounds pretty good.

[snakeman07]

The tyranny of choice! We're designing some features into the next game to alleviate this.

Interesting. Maybe something like you choose 3+ tables for a "playlist". Lose a ball and move on to the next table. That would keep things refreshing, although that would be something for the more casual player, since you couldn't really get high scores going like that.

[tenorhero]

Have fun guys! I think you will like Tesla and El Dorado.


Shaman is good too. The scoring can be tough and starting missions will probably be the toughest part because in order to light up the element of choice you have to sink a ball into one of the Sinkholes on the left or right and shoot the ball up the clear ramp. It's timed as well I think you have 10 seconds to hit it up the clear ramp. Keep the ball up there to spell element, then pick you element and spell cast by hitting the sinkhole in the upper part of the lower play-field.

Now if only your tables would come over to our side. Sigh.......

[Lepruk86]

The tyranny of choice! We're designing some features into the next game to alleviate this.

Oh quoted by the man himself.... I feel honoured!!! xD

Just want to remark that my statement was not meant as a complaint of any kind (in case it was taken that way), more just an observation... .

As I said earlier in the post this is a fantastic bundle to release for us fans.

Also, nice tease about the future there Solitude... Are you building a machine that allows us to play every table at the same time and yet not decline in skill?... Hmm? HMMM? I think we have cracked your secret ways... HaHa!

@Cloda

I have played a fair amount of time as well, but I am not great at the game, merely good. I have completed all of the easier tables, but all of the harder ones I can generally reach the wizard mode, but not beat it. I think I play too inconsistently to ever be truly epic at the game though. Like, I'll play it for a couple of weeks every day then a couple of weeks without etc etc.

OFF-TOPIC:

I think the interview went well, I shall report the results asap. Thanks for the well-wishing Barbie.

[BarbieBobomb]

But there are not the same people. Most XBOX players have been asking for this for a very long time. I am sure you can't even count the number of times you had to answer us on that subject lol... ! Today is a great day. Now when we look back, we realize how much have been done...

I don't know who got the idea to "make the surprise", but this is an incredibly nice "small attention" showing that you care about us, you really wanted to please us and that however doesn't surprise me at all. I don't think I've ever had a Christmas surprise from a team of programmers. Clearly, the link between you and your fans is very special. I'm not about to forget this.

Thanks, Vincent. I'd like to think this is a step toward being able to give fans more of what they request regardless of the console--even if it did take us a while.

[Solitude]

I actually know what you mean...

There was an experiment done a few years a go with jelly beans (I think it was). Basically, they timed how long it took people to decide which flavour they wanted based on the selection.

The results basically were that the more variety of flavours that were introduced, the more time people spent deciding.

It's annoying as I can't find the source for this now, I remember doing it in Psychology years a go and google is failing me atm.

But anyway, same logic applies. Often I load up and have no idea what table to play just because of the selection. Though once I get into a table I tend to keep at that one for several sessions.

The tyranny of choice! We're designing some features into the next game to alleviate this.

[Vincent]

People complain when we don't release these tables on Xbox 360...then people complain when we do.

But there are not the same people. Most XBOX players have been asking for this for a very long time. I am sure you can't even count the number of times you had to answer us on that subject lol... ! Today is a great day. Now when we look back, we realize how much has been done...

I don't know who got the idea to "make the surprise", but this is an incredibly nice "small attention" showing that you care about us, you really wanted to please us and that however doesn't surprise me at all. I don't think I've ever had a Christmas surprise from a team of programmers. Clearly, the link between you and your fans is very special. I'm not about to forget this.

[Vincent]

My... !!!! I just saw the thread... Let's JUMP to my 360, see you everyone !

And Zen... I LOVE YOU !!!

[Nekro Neko]

First impressions

V12: Better than Speed Machine, but of the four in this pack, seems to be the weakest, I'm okay with the theme though.
El Dorado: Balls last for ages, I had one game and that lasted 1 hour. Plenty of missions and the theme is great, enjoy the music in the background too.
Shamen: Fun little table, though seems quite difficult to score at first. Probably my second favourite in the pack.
Tesla: Last one I tried because I heard so much about it, and must say I quite enjoyed it, the theme is strong in this one. Steam-punk design has been very well realised with spinning mechanisms, steam, sound effects and the like. Scoring is pretty harsh. Oh, and magnets, lots of magnets.

Achievements are all too easy, but meh, not the main reason to play this game now is it?

[Cloda]

I actually know what you mean...

There was an experiment done a few years a go with jelly beans (I think it was). Basically, they timed how long it took people to decide which flavour they wanted based on the selection.

The results basically were that the more variety of flavours that were introduced, the more time people spent deciding.

It's annoying as I can't find the source for this now, I remember doing it in Psychology years a go and google is failing me atm.

But anyway, same logic applies. Often I load up and have no idea what table to play just because of the selection. Though once I get into a table I tend to keep at that one for several sessions.

I guess this is an indication of how much I have been playing this game that I always know which table I am going to play as I start up the game. A lot of the tables I have basically completed in terms of what I want to achieve or score on it and as such I won't easily go back to it. At the moment there is only two tables - Earth Defence and Excalibur - (apart from the new Zen tables) that I am playing. I have set some specific limits on a table as my goals (e.g. 1 Bil for the new tables) so that I rather spend quality time playing the game rather than quantity and this has allowed me to now play other games as well where previously I was just playing FX 2.

[s-carnegie]

Great news, have them on ZP2 and dont have xbox but you guys will like the 4 tables. Ive been going back to Elderado alot latley.