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  • zaphod77
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    My usual method of handling the skillshot with keyboard is to hold for max power, then keep it held down until the plunger is where i want it.

    It works well for a lot of tables, though some seem rather unfair. It seems there's a random factor in the plunger which is not present on xbox360. This is most obvious on epic quest, where i can get the skillshot every time except on PC, and on ghost rider, where even the autoplunger doesn't automatically get top hole (it does 100% on 360).

    I can't even hit the skillshot on epic quest 99% of the time with the controller on windows like i can on xbox. And my 100% trick for getting the ghost rider one with just the launch button fails on PC as well.

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  • BarbieBobomb
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    Like I said before, it could come before August 9th. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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  • Typo
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    Originally posted by surf1der View Post
    Lol, typo. I could only imagine how disappointed you would be if you had any other version than the steam version. Not only is it their newest platform, it is by far the best supported platform.
    Honestly, if it weren't for my fathers reversal in attitude towards the game, I wouldn't be nearly as annoyed by the situation though I would still find it rather silly. This was the first thing he's been excited about doing with me that I can actually do (I'm disabled) and we were both pretty happy those first 2 nights and then the update came and I told him not to worry, they would get right on it, that companies who release a bad patch almost always fix it right away, but I was wrong and when I told him what was said about the problem, his attitude towards the whole game changed. Like I mentioned in my previous post, his liver is in the final stage of cirrhosis and that causes high ammonia levels which effect him mentally so he is much more easily aggravated and that isn't helping either.

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  • surf1der
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    Lol, typo. I could only imagine how disappointed you would be if you had any other version than the steam version. Not only is it their newest platform, it is by far the best supported platform.

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  • Typo
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    Really?

    Originally posted by BarbieBobomb View Post
    We're on a schedule of patching the game every other week, so the next one should hit on or before August 9th.
    Why on earth would you try and maintain a 2 week patch cycle? Google Chrome is known for its extremely fast release schedule and they are 6 weeks apart and even that is unusually often. They are only able to do so thanks to their huge team of developer and by maintaining publicly released development and beta branches so that users wanting to help work out bugs while enjoying updates early can do so without having updates or patches pushed to the public with untested or incomplete features/fixes.

    You are clearly pushing updates without testing them and misleading the public about what you are doing. Your last update to fix "Russian Language Errors", which the post you made about seems to have vanished, clearly did more than that. I can't imagine how bad your code would have to be for language edits to effect the player score and do it so badly that the score somehow gets forwarded to the next player but only on the first ball.

    You have a pretty large fan base and I know a good number of them would willingly install a beta branch of your game. Other games in Steam do this, you can too and you would have easily avoided publicly releasing a patch that so significantly breaks your game. It's not like this is some minor issue you created.

    To push a release before it was ready or properly tested and then have that patch break the game in a way that makes some of your customers unable to enjoy it is bad enough but to leave the patch until your next scheduled update cycle is insane. Why wouldn't you push an "emergency" patch to simply undo your previous changes?

    I honestly do not feel like you are giving this situation the attention or priority it deserves and it certainly indicates a need to review your internal policies for testing and release.

    My dad has gone from being overly excited to wanting me to try and get a refund. I have gone from being overly excited to feeling like an idiot for paying full price for the first time ever in Steam, on 3 of your game packs, only to have the game broken by the developers who then plan to leave it this way for the next 2 weeks.

    I don't even know what else to say, I'm just disappointed.
    Last edited by Typo; 08-01-2013, 05:55 AM.

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  • LeanderL
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    Typo I am playing with a friend at the moment. Our temporary workaround is to load the table settings, select 4 balls per game and let the 1st ball of each player drain. Online scores won't be saved as you've adjusted the table's setting but unfortunately, local highscores are saved. Either save them and keep them (local scores don't matter as you have 4 balls but the 1st one is useless) or delete/reset them afterwards (your scores will be lost though).

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  • BarbieBobomb
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    Originally posted by Imagamejunky View Post
    Barbie
    Is it possible to allow us to revert back to the previous working version? Today?
    I don't think so, I think once you install the update, that's it. I'll let you know if the patch goes live before the 9th, I know waiting is no fun

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  • Imagamejunky
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    Barbie
    Is it possible to allow us to revert back to the previous working version? Today?

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  • BarbieBobomb
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    We're on a schedule of patching the game every other week, so the next one should hit on or before August 9th.

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  • LeanderL
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    I am going to play with a friend later today...and we can't play...all we can do is that player 1 drains the ball without scoring and player 2 does the same. And the game starts at ball 2.

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  • Typo
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    Any updates on the broken local hotseat??

    I have to say, I am honestly surprised and disappointed that the recent game breaking update has not been undone or fixed.

    I discovered this game after the summer sale and my dads interest in it inspired me to purchase 3 table packs at full price and I never pay full price for games but it was that cool to find something we both love and can do together and now we can't even play 2 player.

    For a company to release a patch that so thoroughly breaks local multiplayer on a game which is designed to be played with friends and then not immediately address the issue within a couple days at most is absolutely terrible. Your only job is games, you release an update and you clearly didn't test it first and if you did, well lets be honest, you did a very poor job of it and when this update broke the game, your only move was to thank us for letting you know without any move to ensure us that this is being taken as seriously as it should be or a possible ETA to when we can enjoy the game as it was designed to be enjoyed.

    As a coder, if I were to treat anything I released or patched with this lack of attention, I would be out of work.

    You broke a working system and while I don't know what you "fixed" when doing so, the fact remains that every bit of your attention should be put towards undoing the patch so you have time to test it properly before releasing it, or to get a second patch out immediately to resolve the major game breaking bug you introduced into what was a working system and you should absolutely keep your paying customers who's game you broke in the loop.

    I apologize if I sound rude, its just with my dads health as it is, I don't know if I have a month or a year or more left with him and it was so cool last week when we found something so fun to do together and now with the 2 player broken he doesn't really want to play anymore. I do get him to play 1 player but waiting so long for turns is hard for him because the liver failure causes high ammonia levels which affect his thinking and seems to have especially impacted his patience.

    Please fix this soon.

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  • mightydragonli
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    Moreover, playing in hot seat second player starts with first player's score, third player starts with second player's score and fourth player start with ... third player's score. So - usually fourth player before starting have got more then 10.000.000 pts.

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  • Typo
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    Originally posted by LeanderL View Post
    Typo, the camera settings are automatically saved per table. If you play with cam 5, quit the game and launch the table again you will automatically play with cam 5 again.
    I know but I just thought there was a camera settings menu is all. Thanks for the reply,

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  • LeanderL
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    Typo, the camera settings are automatically saved per table. If you play with cam 5, quit the game and launch the table again you will automatically play with cam 5 again.

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  • Typo
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    Originally posted by BarbieBobomb View Post
    Thanks for the reports, everyone!
    You are very welcome, I hope we can expect a hotseat fix soon. I love playing this with my dad (he is terminally ill). We discovered it just last week and its the first time I've got him to game with me since he moved in and we both love the game. He really doesn't like taking turns on 1 player so wants to wait for your fix now.

    On a side note. I am new to the system as I mentioned above but when I went in the options yesterday (same time we noticed the 2 player issue) I cannot seem to find the default camera options anymore. I know I saw them the first time I ran the game but I am either just not remembering where to look or they were removed in this recent update. Considering the problems the update caused, I thought I would mention it in case it is actually an issue.

    Thanks!

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