Thoughts on Online Multiplayer?

[Space-Walk]

I like the controlling of R1 and L1 idea, it's kind of like a multi-player mode in Tetris I think, total team work. It could have separate scoreboards for it and everything

Separate scoreboards sounds just delicious.

[Space-Walk]

Nice idea, but I can't see how it would work. There is a delay when going over the internet, and that delay will just kill it.

You are 110% right... still wouldn't you go for a game of this kind with a friend? I think you would. I have survived a wife keep telling me to stop playing (in various ways), I think I'll survive a bit lag too.

How would it work to co-op with a buddy from same city or even country would it still lag much?

[snakeman07]

Nice idea, but I can't see how it would work. There is a delay when going over the internet, and that delay will just kill it.

True, but every game has lag if you're playing online, you just gotta live with it.

[Jeppo99]

Nice idea, but I can't see how it would work. There is a delay when going over the internet, and that delay will just kill it.

[snakeman07]

Is it possible to co-op on a game over the network? Where player one commands L1 and player two R1 perhaps. Or maybe the first ball gets played by player one while second player watches the game and second ball goesn to second player and last and third to the one that got the most score?

This would make the game look pretty original while it gets two people to actively get involved in the same game.

I like the controlling of R1 and L1 idea, it's kind of like a multi-player mode in Tetris I think, total team work. It could have separate scoreboards for it and everything

[Space-Walk]

Co-op multiplay!?

Is it possible to co-op on a game over the network? Where player one commands L1 and player two R1 perhaps. Or maybe the first ball gets played by player one while second player watches the game and second ball goesn to second player and last and third to the one that got the most score?

This would make the game look pretty original while it gets two people to actively get involved in the same game.

[Jeppo99]

I found a multiplayer game on Marvel's the Avengers with the target set to a paltry 1 million, so I thought I'd enter the game, chose the Hawkeye ball and immediately scored a skillshot for 1 million, game won. I played again, did the same trick and got the 1 million skillshot again, game lasting just a few seconds. Everybody quit after that, including myself.

But you can see how the multiplayer can be abused. I got 200 points in just 15 seconds. The top player has 99,190 points on that table. By my calculations that will take him/her just over two hours, assuming they hit the skillshot with Hawkeye every time and assuming the other players stay with him. Considering how easy it is to get a friend with a PSN account to help out, it sounds very plausible.

[s-carnegie]

Ive played online about four times on ZP2 and when setting options I set the game on 5 min instead of a point race. With only a 5 percent penalty for ball loss it seems more enjoyable for some reason. I know what you mean caper, that would be frustrating if it happens often.

[Jeppo99]

I haven't played the online multiplayer on ZP2 yet, but I have on Marvel Pinball.

I find that to do well in Multiplayer is to play slightly differently than single player. Because when you are playing on single player, you (obviously) try to aim to get the highest score you can, and that's usually by doing the tried and trusted method of steady accumulation, activating the kickbacks and ball save as soon as possible and trying to minimise risk as much as you can. The points will come in time.

In Online Multiplayer you aim to accumulate points as quickly as you can. This usually entails making more risky shots, ignoring kickbacks, and activating the modes that give out the most points. Draining the ball is not as punishing in Online Multiplayer, even if the penalty is set high, as the end-of-ball bonus is awarded after the penalty and that can be fairly sizeable on its own depending on the table.

Most people won't understand me when I say this, but I think of single player as a Test and Online Multiplayer as a Twenty20.

[caper_26]

You can add me if you want to play ZP2 together sometime.

Cool. Will try that.

Same here, but I have been guilty of accidentally pressing the retard button (the oddly placed quit button) a few times.

That made me LOL !!!!

[Thirdrail]

I never play online because I just hate the online multiplayer. If there were hotseat online multi, I'd be online constantly.

(And most, if not all, of the people I've dragged into Zen pinball games would still be playing. I buy tables for my friends to get them started, everyone is all happy for a day or two, and then the minute they realize there's no real multiplayer, they stop and never play again. I've been through this at least half a dozen times in the last year.)

[Bearded_Warrior]

Yeah thats always a prob with online vs. games. Wussies back out when their getting their asses handed to them. Thats why i dont bother with the sports games online anymore. And as to multiplayer pinball, ive yet to try cuz i wanna get a little better before someone hands me mine! Lol...i should probly try it before i ask, but what, its not like taking turns? Do you see the other player(s) tables as they are playing? Id actualy play with the big boys so i can see how they do it. And i dont back out during versus...no matter how bad im losing!

There's just no incentive for me to play multiplayer. They really should have had some trophies associated with it to make it worth while and to improve the community aspect of the game. The real driver for me right now is beating tables, getting the trophies, and improving my pro score (in that order).

[MarkItZeroSmoky]

Yeah thats always a prob with online vs. games. Wussies back out when their getting their asses handed to them. Thats why i dont bother with the sports games online anymore. And as to multiplayer pinball, ive yet to try cuz i wanna get a little better before someone hands me mine! Lol...i should probly try it before i ask, but what, its not like taking turns? Do you see the other player(s) tables as they are playing? Id actualy play with the big boys so i can see how they do it. And i dont back out during versus...no matter how bad im losing!

[shogun00]

I don't play much multiplayer but I've had similar problems on games like Street Fighter IV. People keep booting me from the lobby in hopes of finding an easier opponent. I promise you I will never do that. I will take my ass whooping, learn from it, add it to my game, and move on.

Same here, but I have been guilty of accidentally pressing the retard button (the oddly placed quit button) a few times.

[Bearded_Warrior]

Hi guys. What are you thoughts on people hosting games on PSN, but won't allow you to play on their table? When I try to join, certain people just kick me out right away, or leave the table and won't play. They WILL play other people, and pad their online scores. It makes me a little nuts knowing their online scores are higher than mine, but they refuse to allow me to get points on their table while they host. This happened a lot on ZP1. My wife was actually trash talking the guy yesterday (PS eye camera)!! Sometimes when they host, they won't press X to say they are ready to play until they see who joins their table first... Also I noticed afterwards, no one else joined their table for at least 15-20 mins because you can see how many players are playing while you are in the lounge, so they would rather sit there and not play at all, than play me and try to get better and have a challenge.
/end rant !

I don't play much multiplayer but I've had similar problems on games like Street Fighter IV. People keep booting me from the lobby in hopes of finding an easier opponent. I promise you I will never do that. I will take my ass whooping, learn from it, add it to my game, and move on. You can add me if you want to play ZP2 together sometime.