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  • #16
    Originally posted by Alipan View Post
    Disappointing.....PS4 owners better hope Zen dont bring out any more football teams!

    I would still be interested to know if this was intentional or an oversight.

    Hopefully if the latter then lessons can be learnt for the Xbone version.
    Not an oversight, it is the exact same for every table. The more tables you play, the higher your pro score. Each of these tables are handled just like all the others - as a full price table that is included in the pro score calculations. Looking it from the other side – if I purchase multiple SLF tables, do I not deserve to include my purchased tables in the pro score calculation? We had to charge for each separate team table, there was just no way around it.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BarbieBobomb View Post
      Not an oversight, it is the exact same for every table. The more tables you play, the higher your pro score. Each of these tables are handled just like all the others - as a full price table that is included in the pro score calculations. Looking it from the other side – if I purchase multiple SLF tables, do I not deserve to include my purchased tables in the pro score calculation? We had to charge for each separate team table, there was just no way around it.
      I have to disagree. Counting the same table several times damages the integrity of the concept.

      Also it hardly seems fair that people have to buy several versions of the same table in order to compete.

      Surely the idea of releasing different teams is that you just pick your favourite? Players shouldnt be at a disadvantage because they didnt buy every single one. You can understand why that leaves a sour taste?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Alipan View Post
        You can understand why that leaves a sour taste?
        I get what you're saying, but like I said, there is no way to change the feature set or turn off pro score calculations for certain tables.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BarbieBobomb View Post
          Not an oversight, it is the exact same for every table. The more tables you play, the higher your pro score. Each of these tables are handled just like all the others - as a full price table that is included in the pro score calculations. Looking it from the other side – if I purchase multiple SLF tables, do I not deserve to include my purchased tables in the pro score calculation? We had to charge for each separate team table, there was just no way around it.
          Thank you for responding Barbie.

          But if it is the exact same for every table, why is there not an individual leader board for each team/skin since the tables are full price? It would benefit those of us who need to know our high score for each and as of now, there's no way to tell...
          Table wishlist: Tron . Halo . Gears of War . Final Fantasy . Robot/Mechs . Golf . Pool/Billiards

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BarbieBobomb View Post
            Not an oversight, it is the exact same for every table. The more tables you play, the higher your pro score. Each of these tables are handled just like all the others - as a full price table that is included in the pro score calculations. Looking it from the other side – if I purchase multiple SLF tables, do I not deserve to include my purchased tables in the pro score calculation? We had to charge for each separate team table, there was just no way around it.
            Err... it's not exactly the same since there is only a single SFL table. It is only the skins that differ.
            So basically people are forced to re-buy the same table multiple times (are there 8 skins?) to keep the Pro-Score valid.

            Blows my mind that you guys did it that way. Oh well.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Metalzoic View Post
              Err... it's not exactly the same since there is only a single SFL table. It is only the skins that differ.
              So basically people are forced to re-buy the same table multiple times (are there 8 skins?) to keep the Pro-Score valid.
              It's just the way the game treats the skins. To you they may look separate, but to the game each skin is a different table and that means each one is added to the Pro Score. It's not something that can probably be easily fixed with a bandage (err patch). Most likely the only way to fix it is to overhaul the entire game engine and then re-release the game again completely.
              Last edited by shogun00; 05-07-2014, 09:09 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by shogun00 View Post
                To be perfectly honest, I never look at the Pro Scores. The Pro Score was always easy to inflate by just buying all of the tables and taking advantage of the tables with simple high scoring opportunities. I'm not even counting the Super Football League table skins.

                I keep on asking the question, what about the people that don't have a lot of money and can only buy a few tables? I personally find the trophy data to be more useful. Case and point, I have a friend that's really good at pinball, but he only owns half of the tables. His Pro Score is pretty low, but he has pretty good leaderboard scores on the individual tables that he owns. Plus, he has unlock all of the trophies on those said tables. I find him to be a much better player compared to some that have a really high Pro Scores, but only have about half of the trophies unlocked. He definitely gives me a run for my money during our online games.
                Pro score was something that was great for those who had all the different tables to compete on. Asking about those who don't own all the tables isn't very relevant. That's what individual table leaderboards are for.
                Since you haven't looked at proscores in so long then I guess you don't realize they don't work like they used to so long ago where it was just a total combined score and easy tables could drastically change your position. Having each table weighted the same fixed all that awhile ago though.

                The news that this can't be changed is disappointing to me. It's surprising how much of a factor that leaderboard competition had on my returning to play almost daily, but since this change I've hardly played at all. I guess I find it much easier to get burned out on the game without that added motivation. I just can't see purchasing basically the same table I already have another handful of times just to get that back though.
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