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  • I wish that the choices actually mattered. Every time I make a decision, the only new change I get is a different voice quote. It would be awesome if there were different missions for every episode because then it would feel like the decisions truly mattered, instead of just being tacked on. The other two problems I have with the table are that the side missions are completely useless scoring wise besides the extra ball after completing them all, and that there needs to be more fanfare for certain objectives (ie. Clementine mode startup). Besides those minor flaws, this is one of Zen's most original tables and I hope there are more like this.
    Completed Tables:
    Spider-Man, Ms. Splosion Man, Captain America, Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, Sorcerer's Lair, Plants vs. Zombies, The Avengers, World War Hulk, Civil War, Return of the Jedi, Starfighter Assault, Super League Football

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    • Originally posted by skyway73 View Post
      I reached it and concur with daverthehutt: 3 ball multiball with all shots scoring a jackpot, it was 1 million for me, and the sink-holes scoring 4 million.

      And yes it does start as soon as you complete your final mission, no intro, no build up, no dramatic sounds... I've said it before and I'll say it again, Zen's tables could be drastically improved if they could give us some sort of fanfare and pause before you are rewarded with something big (Wizard mode, super jackpots, completing or starting events etc.) Anyone who has played a real Addams Family machine for instance must remember the excitement and anticipation when you lock your third ball and start multiball. SHOW-TIME!!! A suspense filled pause in gameplay can make all the difference I think.

      I think I've won all the Extra Balls listed in the in-game table guide for this table, again you hardly realise you've even lit the Extra Ball let alone won one unless you're paying close attention, let us know for sure Zen with some bangs and whistles!! Maybe think about a mechanical sound effect sometimes along the lines of the knocker in a real table?
      I agree and I've brought this up before.

      The biggest problem with most Zen tables is that their pacing is off and they lack that fanfare. Almost as if the designers don't have much experience with real machines.

      Real tables pause when it's necessary to give you a chance to read important DMD info or to build up excitement. When a real table's about to release a ball back to you it will typically provide a strobe or flash that you can't miss to prepare you, often with accompanying sound effects. Zen often just drops it in with barely an announcement or warning. On real machines big events garner big feedback and often hold the ball to let that accomplishment sink in. That additional build-up, DMD graphic, dramatic pause, flashing light show etc... is just as much a payoff to play for as a high score. Hell even the bonus score count is a more exciting affair on a real table!

      Sadly, not so much with Zen. Although there are a few that do a much better job with this flow, Excalibur for example probably captures real timing the best and also does a decent job with the rest.

      I'm not saying this to bash it, but as constructive criticism. If they went back and tuned all there tables to behave more like that it would very, very drastically improve the experience. It would probably also go a long way towards getting more pinball purist to give it a fair try and bring in more customers.

      However after 52 or so tables now and they still haven't enforced this into their design philosophy and I doubt they ever will.

      Oh well.

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      • I am already finding an annoying issue with the iPad version of this game - at the start of almost every game the game stalls very slightly just as the ball comes down for the left flipper attempt at skill shot - causes a very brief freeze of the ball just before it hits the sweetspot on the left flipper and therefore screws up the timing and an attempt at a precisely timed shot. It is really pissing me off. I thought it might be the iPad struggling to process the graphics but even with every other progam closed and even a reboot of the iPad does not clear the issue (thought it might be a memory issue). The problem repeats itself at random times during the game - but guaranteed the first time I try this shot on every new game I play. Please fix!

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        • Clementine Wizard Mode

          If anyone wants to see how the Wizard Mode is -

          ***Spoilers***

          Last edited by ShoryukenToTheChin; 09-08-2014, 02:26 PM.
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          • Nice work STTC, I said in a previous post it was a 3 ball multiball but it will be a 4 ball multiball if you have a ball locked when it starts. Just a minor point but worth locking a ball before starting Wizard mode.

            I've mentioned before some of the things I like with this table, the lighting, Tower bell and car horn sound effects, etc. I also like how the missions are easy to start but a challenge to actually complete. Not sure I would have made the No time left mission as it is though, not being able to lose a ball leaves it open to spamming abuse... Especially as you can max the Savannah bonus at a cool 5 million and rinse it easily. On a similar note A new day can be used to max the mulitpliers quite easily, although there is a risk as you can lose a ball in this mission. Both points aren't game-breakers though.

            I love hitting that Tower 3 times in No time left, satisfying especially with the "Clang!" sound.

            Some of the side missions can become a bit dull as they seem to start too often, especially Smile with the football and Scouting ahead. I think adding a timer to these missions so the quicker you completed them the more points you got would liven things up maybe? The same with the Sniper mini-games, give us a bonus for not missing, head-shots and fast shooting! Also how about a moving target that occasionally flies across the screen and offers a bonus? That could be cool.

            I love the skill shot, one of my favourites so far. Another way I think it could be improved is to offer a Super skill shot by hitting the Tower again? Even keep it going so you can hit it more than once, MEGA SKILL SHOT! ULLLTRAAA SKILL SHOT!!! "CLANG CLANG CLANG!!" FLASH FLASH FLASH!!! You get the idea...

            I think we've said it enough times that we need more fanfares etc. upon reaching Wizard mode etc. Thought I would just slip it in again just in case anyone missed it!

            Overall a very nice table, I'm really enjoying it. I've set myself a challenge of hitting a billion and then I think I'll be ready for your next offering guys

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            • Anybody know how to get this Extra Ball?

              Hey guys when it says for an extra ball completing 10 of the side modes, of which is it referring to? because I swear there are only 8 Hurry Up Modes - Food Is Scarce, Make them smile, Scounting, Life Saving Arms, Swarm, Supply Run, Sniper & Everetts (Mini - Playfield). Does that mean just beat any of those combinations of Hurry Up Modes 10 times?
              Last edited by ShoryukenToTheChin; 09-08-2014, 06:31 PM.
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              • Originally posted by ShoryukenToTheChin View Post
                Hey guys when it says for an extra ball completing 10 of the side modes, of which is it referring to? because I swear there are only 7 Hurry Up Modes - Make them smile, Scounting, Life Saving Arms, Swarm, Supply Run, Sniper & Everetts (Mini - Playfield). Does that mean just beat any of those combinations of Hurry Up Modes 10 times?
                Correct.

                Also I am pretty sure "Food is Scarce" also counts as a side mission, making a total of 8 side-missions.
                Completed Tables:
                Spider-Man, Ms. Splosion Man, Captain America, Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, Sorcerer's Lair, Plants vs. Zombies, The Avengers, World War Hulk, Civil War, Return of the Jedi, Starfighter Assault, Super League Football

                Xbox 360 ID: NoahChron
                PlayStation 4 ID: richc111
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                • Originally posted by Captain B. Zarre View Post
                  Correct.

                  Also I am pretty sure "Food is Scarce" also counts as a side mission, making a total of 8 side-missions.
                  Interesting as I thought the 2 Multiball Modes - Lure Them Away & Fortify be the missing 2 to make 10 Side Missions?
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                  • Originally posted by ShoryukenToTheChin View Post
                    Interesting as I thought the 2 Multiball Modes - Lure Them Away & Fortify be the missing 2 to make 10 Side Missions?
                    I'm sure it's a combo of any of the side missions and not all of them, you could probably do the same mission 10 times to get the Extra Ball. "Hello beautiful!..."

                    Also, once the multiplier is maxed you get the Extra ball the next time you complete 15 bumper hits. Then each time you complete 15 bumper hits you get a bonus score which starts at 500,000 and increases by that amount. I noticed I had it up to 2 million today but I guess it goes higher?

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                    • Originally posted by skyway73 View Post
                      I'm sure it's a combo of any of the side missions and not all of them, you could probably do the same mission 10 times to get the Extra Ball. "Hello beautiful!..."

                      Also, once the multiplier is maxed you get the Extra ball the next time you complete 15 bumper hits. Then each time you complete 15 bumper hits you get a bonus score which starts at 500,000 and increases by that amount. I noticed I had it up to 2 million today but I guess it goes higher?
                      *Wonders if he is coming onto him* lol jokes aside thanks for the info guys.
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                      • I want say just one word. I'm ready for tournament !!


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                        • Originally posted by Neuroup View Post
                          I want say just one word. I'm ready for tournament !!


                          Greets
                          I still haven't got my deadpool t shirt or slippers yet from the last one

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                          • This table is tricky at times with the active slings, but like the challenge. Trying hard to get a B score, my best is 694m I need more extra balls two is my best so far. I really like that the PS3 may be getting those xbox tables soon. cheers to ZEN.

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                            • Originally posted by DiscoKing View Post
                              I still haven't got my deadpool t shirt or slippers yet from the last one
                              Me neither Disco but good things come to those who wait...

                              Talking of good things coming to those who wait, ahem, The Pinball Arcade have started a Kickstarter to bring us The Addams Family! A dream come true for me, there is none higher.

                              Kudos to Zen Studios for putting it on their Facebook too, a lovely touch from them I thought.

                              Anyway, here's the link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...-addams-family

                              You know what to do guys!

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                              • Originally posted by skyway73 View Post
                                Me neither Disco but good things come to those who wait...

                                Talking of good things coming to those who wait, ahem, The Pinball Arcade have started a Kickstarter to bring us The Addams Family! A dream come true for me, there is none higher.

                                Kudos to Zen Studios for putting it on their Facebook too, a lovely touch from them I thought.

                                Anyway, here's the link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...-addams-family

                                You know what to do guys!
                                Yeh Zen doing that was such a classy move. Oh defo that will be funded easily, imo that Table is so awesome but sadly I never got to play the real thing.

                                Also my Walking Dead Guide should be done very soon.
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