Iron & Steel Table Pack

[skyway73]

Hey everyone,

due to the feedback on those slingshots on Wild West Rampage I decided to tweak them a bit. They will remain active but hopefully the ball won't go to the outlanes that often. Although I still recommend to experiment with the nudge as it will totally change the gameplay and probably bring your average play time and scores to the next level.

The patch will possibly come with the next set of tables. Thanks for the feedback again and keep playing, having fun!

Personally I'm happy with them, although I would say that having got the highest score on PS4

Look forward to trying them out anyway but I would rather other issues were addressed with the table instead which I've mentioned previously.

[ndever]

I usually just lurk and rarely post, but I wanted to say how much I'm enjoying the Wild West table and like the fact there is a female lead. Heck, I pretty much like all the tables Zen has offered, and look forward to more and more greatness.

Thank you!

[Stumpy Santo]

I usually just lurk and rarely post, but I wanted to say how much I'm enjoying the Wild West table and like the fact there is a female lead. Heck, I pretty much like all the tables Zen has offered, and look forward to more and more greatness.

[ndever]

Slingshot tweak

Hey everyone,

due to the feedback on those slingshots on Wild West Rampage I decided to tweak them a bit. They will remain active but hopefully the ball won't go to the outlanes that often. Although I still recommend to experiment with the nudge as it will totally change the gameplay and probably bring your average play time and scores to the next level.

The patch will possibly come with the next set of tables. Thanks for the feedback again and keep playing, having fun!

[skyway73]

Don't be afraid of using the mini-flipper to shoot the jail. If the shot goes bad and the ball would drain in the right outlane a short ballsave will activate and you'll get the ball back. This only occurs if you shoot with the mini-flipper and the ball would drain in the right outlane.

That's cool! I never noticed that, I'll check it out

[ndever]

Yep, good advice. Although the kickbacks are a pain to activate on this table I find I can save nearly every ball down the right outlane and about half down the left. I personally use the Motion sensors on the PS3 controller rather than the stick but it has the same effect.

Also, I only use the left mini-flipper to save left-outlane drains, I never shoot across the table with it as it's too risky.

Don't be afraid of using the mini-flipper to shoot the jail. If the shot goes bad and the ball would drain in the right outlane a short ballsave will activate and you'll get the ball back. This only occurs if you shoot with the mini-flipper and the ball would drain in the right outlane.

[Trollwart]

Yep, good advice. Although the kickbacks are a pain to activate on this table I find I can save nearly every ball down the right outlane and about half down the left. I personally use the Motion sensors on the PS3 controller rather than the stick but it has the same effect.

Also, I only use the left mini-flipper to save left-outlane drains, I never shoot across the table with it as it's too risky.

Thanks guys...hopefully I can get the muscle memory to adjust sooner than later.

[skyway73]

So I've found the only safe way to score big on this table is to play ultra-cautious. It's a shame as that means I wait out half of the missions once they start as they are just too risky compared to the reward. Spam the Rampage MB and any others you can start, I tend not to go for the 3X Duels won and 10X combo Extra Balls as I usually lose a ball just going for them! If you have a good first ball then getting the max multiplier Extra Ball isn't too tough, it also means you can get a decent End of ball bonus. Those 2 tricky-to-hit targets often get hit by accident during a Multiball. Not sure I'll ever break a billion on this table, that would have to be a very long and VERY cautious game. Might not be much fun

The Wizard mode is actually quite easy to get to and beat, the animation for beating it is cool and better than the mode itself! Even the MB after it doesn't seem to offer higher rewards than all the other MBs.

I like the table still as it is quite different to any other, just a shame that you have to forego some of the more interesting modes and missions due to the risk being much greater than the reward. I think a really short ball-save (like on Fear Itself when you hit the pop up target) could have worked on some missions as being punished for a direct hit isn't fair.

Oh, and another thing... Where is the fanfare for getting an Extra Ball? At the risk of repeating myself, we need some bells and whistles to announce such events. I reached the Wizard mode and didn't even realise it, such was the lack of build up.

[skyway73]

From the right outlane im about 80%, nudge the right joystick in the direction of 10 o'clock. From the left outlane im about 60% successful, nudge the right joystick in the direction of 2 o'clock. Hope this helps.

Yep, good advice. Although the kickbacks are a pain to activate on this table I find I can save nearly every ball down the right outlane and about half down the left. I personally use the Motion sensors on the PS3 controller rather than the stick but it has the same effect.

Also, I only use the left mini-flipper to save left-outlane drains, I never shoot across the table with it as it's too risky.

[s-carnegie]

bang backs

Care to share a couple pointers. I can do them like maybe 10% of the time...I push almost straight up on the nudge.

Anyway, great tables...nice to see some originals!

From the right outlane im about 80%, nudge the right joystick in the direction of 10 o'clock. From the left outlane im about 60% successful, nudge the right joystick in the direction of 2 o'clock. Hope this helps.

[Trollwart]

I can do them just fine. Some tables are much easier than others. For this table it isn't that easy.

That outlane is horrible because of all the random bad bounces that make the ball go over there. I don't know how many times the ball has shot straight down that outlane from bouncing between the left angled bumper. If that ball even has a hint of bouncing around that lane i'm already nudging trying to stop it.

Most of the time when he does go down that outlane, there isn't enough speed to do the bang back.

Care to share a couple pointers. I can do them like maybe 10% of the time...I push almost straight up on the nudge.

Anyway, great tables...nice to see some originals!

[s-carnegie]

I like them both, it was a total suprise for me cuz its been about a month since logging on to Zen. Great original tables again Zen It looks like everybody likes these two tables.

[DarkKodiaK]

Learn how to do bang backs and the outlanes won't be a problem anymore

I can do them just fine. Some tables are much easier than others. For this table it isn't that easy.

That outlane is horrible because of all the random bad bounces that make the ball go over there. I don't know how many times the ball has shot straight down that outlane from bouncing between the left angled bumper. If that ball even has a hint of bouncing around that lane i'm already nudging trying to stop it.

Most of the time when he does go down that outlane, there isn't enough speed to do the bang back.

[Beliskner]

Hi, Liking the Wild West table but one annoying thing about it and was wondering if others agreed, is that when you have a specific tasks to complete eg: Killing bandits or blowing up explosives when you hit the target the ball should go through them instead of bouncing back at you or straight down the drain!(which happens a lot). I think it's rather unfair and very frustrating that you get punished for a good shot especially when the table is hard enough as it is. Is there any chance this could be changed in a patch?

Well thanks for listening from a dedicated ZEN pinball player who has every table on multiple platforms, and a member of the BILLIONAIRES Club hehe

No tables have ever been changed just because they were unfair or frustrating. Especially the Thor table had some huge problems with the ball going down the center drain and that's one of the reasons why it's my least favorite Marvel table even though Thor is one of my favorite super heroes.
You have to see it from this perspective though: The not so good tables make you appreciate the great ones even more .

[WAZMAC]

Hi, Liking the Wild West table but one annoying thing about it and was wondering if others agreed, is that when you have a specific tasks to complete eg: Killing bandits or blowing up explosives when you hit the target the ball should go through them instead of bouncing back at you or straight down the drain!(which happens a lot). I think it's rather unfair and very frustrating that you get punished for a good shot especially when the table is hard enough as it is. Is there any chance this could be changed in a patch?

Well thanks for listening from a dedicated ZEN pinball player who has every table on multiple platforms, and a member of the BILLIONAIRES Club hehe