What's up with the crazy slingshots?

[skyway73]

Wow, this really is a hot topic! Nice to see some passionate responses, even if I disagree with most of them

I'll try and keep my views short... Firstly, I love the strong slings. real pins have them and I feel they add to the nerve-jangling excitement. And yes, I know the Zen tables are just a video game not even a simulation but I think they have enough other features which would never be possible on a real machine. We all want it to at least feel like pinball don't we?

With this in mind I think an increasing difficulty after completing Wizard modes dosn't feel right to me. Sure, make modes harder to start with shortened timers etc. but don't adjust the physical features of the table.

My answer would be this: keep the powerful slings but to avoid frustrating outlane drains how about narrowing the gap there? Make it obviously still possible to drain but give us players a chance to nudge and save a ball bouncing round there. I think Return of the Jedi had the closest idea to this, I loved the ball bouncing round there and giving a quick shake or nudge to 'persuade' the ball out. To be clear, I'm talking about before the ball actually travels down the outlane and is rattling round behind the slings.

Oh, and I HATE marathon tables. I want a test of reflexes and split second strategical decision making, not a dull endurance test of stamina. I loved Paranormal but cannot face playing it for obvious reasons, sadly.

[Metalzoic]

Wow, this really is a hot topic! Nice to see some passionate responses, even if I disagree with most of them

I'll try and keep my views short... Firstly, I love the strong slings. real pins have them and I feel they add to the nerve-jangling excitement. And yes, I know the Zen tables are just a video game not even a simulation but I think they have enough other features which would never be possible on a real machine. We all want it to at least feel like pinball don't we?

With this in mind I think an increasing difficulty after completing Wizard modes dosn't feel right to me. Sure, make modes harder to start with shortened timers etc. but don't adjust the physical features of the table.

My answer would be this: keep the powerful slings but to avoid frustrating outlane drains how about narrowing the gap there? Make it obviously still possible to drain but give us players a chance to nudge and save a ball bouncing round there. I think Return of the Jedi had the closest idea to this, I loved the ball bouncing round there and giving a quick shake or nudge to 'persuade' the ball out. To be clear, I'm talking about before the ball actually travels down the outlane and is rattling round behind the slings.

Oh, and I HATE marathon tables. I want a test of reflexes and split second strategical decision making, not a dull endurance test of stamina. I loved Paranormal but cannot face playing it for obvious reasons, sadly.

Pretty much exactly my thoughts. I love the better slings, I wish they could go back and up the sling power on all the older tables. I would actually buy that as DLC. I'm not interested in having the outlanes become easier, but I like that idea much more than split difficulty levels. Don't like the idea of that at all. As for marathon games I'd say the longer the average play time a table has the less interesting or fun it is to play.

When they feel watered down they lose some character that makes pinball so great. I want awesome highs and lows, victories, saves and horrible defeats... rather than playing it safe so it isn't to difficult. That just makes it dull in my opinion.

[DiscoKing]

Oh the irony...

Now you need the active slings to be your friend and send your ball down the outlanes for the new avengers ultron trophy

Zen developers : "what?! You don't like the more active slings!? Well, now you're going to pray for them to get this new trophy! Now how much do you want active slings"

Players: "Man, I can't get the slings to send my ball down the outlanes!"

[Eternal21]

Oh the irony...

Now you need the active slings to be your friend and send your ball down the outlanes for the new avengers ultron trophy

Zen developers : "what?! You don't like the more active slings!? Well, now you're going to pray for them to get this new trophy! Now how much do you want active slings"

Players: "Man, I can't get the slings to send my ball down the outlanes!"

Tell me about it. I could earn that trophy EVERY game on Deadpool, without even trying. One of out three times when the ball goes down the right outlane, it gets spit out, bounces around the slingshots and goes directly into the left one.

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[Rafie]

Oh the irony...

Now you need the active slings to be your friend and send your ball down the outlanes for the new avengers ultron trophy

Zen developers : "what?! You don't like the more active slings!? Well, now you're going to pray for them to get this new trophy! Now how much do you want active slings"

Players: "Man, I can't get the slings to send my ball down the outlanes!"

Disco, normally I'm right behind you in earning my trophies early for Zen. Now I'm lagging behind. I love the video you did on Shareplay. I wish I could do that on command. Unfortunately it will be by luck. Hehehe Oh and MKX has really been grabbing my attention lately.

[skyway73]

Start a multiball and go for end of flipper shots, I got the trophy within 5 mins of my 1st go by doing this.

[DiscoKing]

Disco, normally I'm right behind you in earning my trophies early for Zen. Now I'm lagging behind. I love the video you did on Shareplay. I wish I could do that on command. Unfortunately it will be by luck. Hehehe Oh and MKX has really been grabbing my attention lately.

I'm getting mkx. Maybe we can get a few fights in when I get it.