New tables sort of announced

[DiscoKing]

Ok I just read an article interview with Mel Kirk the VP of of publishing from Zen.

Here are the tidbits of new tables:
1. More marvel tables on the way - no surprise
2. More Star Wars tables on the way - no surprise
3. Tables based on New partnerships to be revealed (only some in 2015)
4. Two more original tables based on the iron and steel theme

• 1 based on Greek mythology
• 1 based on a sports theme park motif

Also stated they are working on the next iteration of pinball (I think that means zen pinball 3)

• They want users to be able to create their own tournaments
• They want to make the game more social with esports
• Players can create their own pinball leagues
• Barring any technical or licensing limitations - All old tables will carry over to the new game! Zen says they care about customer loyalty!

Well that's all I saw in the article about new stuff. Let's hear the comments...


Btw I think Greek mythology table sounds super cool

Btw which one is first Barbie?

[snakeman07]

All of it sounds good to me! Being able to create our own tournaments will be awesome!

[Alipan]

This game can only become exciting again with a new release of the base game – FX3 or whatever.

So in that respect Im pleased to see they are working on an update (although they were saying that several years ago as well!).

I know I am in a minority but I don’t understand the obsession with keeping all the old tables.
I would keep FX2 as a legacy platform so you can still play those tables if you want but start afresh with the new one.

Although flawed I liked the superscore system on Xbox 360. That worked because the tables were released gradually.
Now if you want to compete in that sort of space you are immediately dumped with having to play 40+ tables you have
had for years and played the death out of – not fun.

No mention of new game modes? (I only read the post above not the article). I hope that some are included.

Creating your own tournaments is a good idea but should be limited (perhaps 1 a month per person) or else it will be spammed
into irrelevance.

Oh and some decent achievements would be nice – the Farsight basic / wizard goals is a great system and serves as a tutorial as well.

[Mammouth]

I agree with Alipan with the support of the old tables. For 10 tables, i will be ok with that but for 50+, i think it's a lot of work for the studio to handle with, and i'm afraid it might impact the quality of new tables at the beginning. I don't care if i can't play Paranormal or V12 or any first outdated table on ZP3. Some tables need to rest in peace, they were very good at first but are outclassed now, and some tables must not be resurrect from the deads.

I will be a little sad to not have a few tables on the new engine but if it can be traded for better quality, that's a trade i can make happily.

[DA5ID]

I respectfully disagree - keep all the tables as they are always fun to go back to after a break -believe that's called a high replay value. In fact I would also argue for a complete comprehensive library. - there are many tables that people have never gotten to play due to them not being available on their platform.

[MarkItZeroSmoky]

This sounds promising with some of the extra feature, but im gonna have to agree with Alipan and Mammoth about the 50 old tables. I dont think we need the majority of older tables on Zp3. They are already in at least 2 versions on Ps3 platform between Marvel Pin, Zp2 and Star Wars standalone. We have all those tables in the ps4 version of Zp2.

This also brings to question Sony's trophy cap, which no one really knows yet if they have lifted or extended the cap on ps4. Do we really want to allocate potentially 100 trophies that we already have at least 3, and up to 5 different platforms/versions of to earn already between the 2 standalones (Marvel and Star Wars) Zp2 on Ps3 and 4, plus the Vita?

And I dont get the love for TPA's trophy sytem. Its about as lame as it can get. There is no uniqueness at all to them. Nothing but "Standard Goals" and "Wizard Goals" on tables. Not to mention the standard goals are mostly a joke, and can be earned by anyone with relatively decent skill in the first game of most of their tables. I'd much rather have the unique trophy titles and tiles that correspond to each individual table. And if you get a Wizard mode Trophy in Zen, its pretty much guarenteed that youve done everything necessary that you would need to do to earn all the Wizard "Goals". There may be a couple minor exceptions, but Zen usually throws those in as the secondary Trophy. Please keep the trophies as is. Theres no need to copy from Farsight on that.

I would like to see a fan vote on which of the older tables to bring over to Zp3. Maybe 15 or 20 of the fan favorites would suffice.

[BarbieBobomb]

I would like to see a fan vote on which of the older tables to bring over to Zp3. Maybe 15 or 20 of the fan favorites would suffice.

This wouldn't necessarily give us any useful data. This would only tell us what a handful of people who care enough about transfers want, and wouldn't necessarily be representative of the whole community. Besides, we've already said we will bring over any tables we can.

[Beliskner]

This also brings to question Sony's trophy cap, which no one really knows yet if they have lifted or extended the cap on ps4. Do we really want to allocate potentially 100 trophies that we already have at least 3, and up to 5 different platforms/versions of to earn already between the 2 standalones (Marvel and Star Wars) Zp2 on Ps3 and 4, plus the Vita?

I don't really see a problem there. Zen can bring the tables over without giving everyone of those a trophy again. DLC's aren't required to have trophies.

[surf1der]

User created tournaments and pinball leagues I kind of hit the nail on the head when I requested those features. http://forum.zenstudios.com/showthre...light=features
I am sure they were already working on it before I suggested it but I like the direction they are taking the series. I haven't played much pinball the past year. Mostly been playing Hearthstone surprisingly enough (my first CCG). But pinball leagues would definitely get me back into the game. @Discoking, was the article online? Do you have link for it?

[MarkItZeroSmoky]

I don't really see a problem there. Zen can bring the tables over without giving everyone of those a trophy again. DLC's aren't required to have trophies.

This is true, a point I did not consider. This would alleviate any potential issues and still bring all the tables to the new engine/version.

This wouldn't necessarily give us any useful data. This would only tell us what a handful of people who care enough about transfers want, and wouldn't necessarily be representative of the whole community. Besides, we've already said we will bring over any tables we can.

Fair enough, another point taken. It your guys' workload Cant wait to see whats in store for us.

[tenorhero]

Nice. In regards to having all the tables in the new 'Version', I'd say heck yes. I still play all the 'older' tables. There has always been nostalgia. If you are pinball lover why not have all the tables to you in one version and not have to stop, quit FX3, start FX2 and play the tables then quit FX2 and start FX3 again to play the tables they have?

Tournament options are great. We haven't had one in a long time.

[DiscoKing]

@Discoking, was the article online? Do you have link for it?

Sadly no. The article was in a magazine. I was thumbing through and saw a picture of portal pinball so I read the article most of it was how the magazine liked the latest 3 tables: rebels, Ultron, & portal. Then at the end is about all the new stuff. Which I typed in here the only thing I left out about new stuff was the fact that zen is making a new game based in physics but not pinball and that was all that was said about it. Any new pinball info I put in the original post.

I am looking forward to Greek mythology that sounds like it could be really cool - a lot of source material to draw from.

All we need now is for Barbie to tell us which one is coming next and maybe some hints as to what the next marvel table will be agh em Barbie.....

[BarbieBobomb]

All we need now is for Barbie to tell us which one is coming next and maybe some hints as to what the next marvel table will be agh em Barbie.....

Sorry - no details yet

[shogun00]

Sadly no. The article was in a magazine. I was thumbing through and saw a picture of portal pinball so I read the article most of it was how the magazine liked the latest 3 tables: rebels, Ultron, & portal. Then at the end is about all the new stuff. Which I typed in here the only thing I left out about new stuff was the fact that zen is making a new game based in physics but not pinball and that was all that was said about it. Any new pinball info I put in the original post.

Ah! The one in Game Informer. I posted about it last month in the General Discussion section.

http://forum.zenstudios.com/showthread.php?7392-Zen-Studios-Article-in-Game-Informer

[tenorhero]

Ah! The one in Game Informer. I posted about it last month in the General Discussion section.

http://forum.zenstudios.com/showthre...-Game-Informer

Hmm How did that post get past me. Likely because it was in the General discussion which I rarely visit.


Now if we could get some of the older tables redone for this combined platform. Buccaneer, Agents etc I would love to try those. Have never had a chance to play them and likely never will. I would so much look forward to that.

Looking forward to the Mythology one. Love Mythology.