What about Highscores?

[Sascha]

My Girlfriend absolutely rules the Highscores on all the Tables on our Vegapin-Cab. When I told her about the switch to fx3 her first question was "What about my Highscores?!" ... what can i tell her?

[grenadier]

The FAQ page mentions:

Will there be new leaderboards?
Yes, Pinball FX3 will be a clean slate for everyone, with new beginnings on the leaderboards as well!

Pretty sure that means the scores are not being transferred. With the tables, graphics, and physics being adjusted, that only seems fair anyway. The old scores were done on a different game, with different "rules."

[MuddyWolf_Beta]

I’m in the closed beta but since the NDA has just been lifted I think I’m allowed to answer your question now.

No. You can’t transfer your local high scores from FX2 to FX3. It’s doesn’t matter much anyway because there are no local high scores anymore in FX3. (You can’t enter initials either)

You’ve only got one high score on each table (or mode) and that score is bound to your account so this is also your high score on the multiplayer leaderboards.

[djb5f]

I’m in the closed beta but since the NDA has just been lifted I think I’m allowed to answer your question now.

No. You can’t transfer your local high scores from FX2 to FX3. It’s doesn’t matter much anyway because there are no local high scores anymore in FX3. (You can’t enter initials either)

You’ve only got one high score on each table (or mode) and that score is bound to your account so this is also your high score on the multiplayer leaderboards.

Oh, that's unfortunate. My kids loved playing on their account and seeing how many of the top 10 scores they could get.

[tfhfony]

Oh, that's unfortunate. My kids loved playing on their account and seeing how many of the top 10 scores they could get.

The old FX2 will stay available & playable, so.. they can still do that. Just not in FX3...

[Sascha]

Hm ... thats pretty sad ... we regularly had some pinparties goin where some friend hopped over to our place and we battled eachother in real life on the Vegapin, drinking a beer and havin a real life chat and a real-life steak on the grill ;-) And everybody enjoyed placing their Names in the local highscores. I guess real life fades away eventually. Not to mention my girlfriend just yelled over: Okay Dude ... we be stayin with FX2 then!! ... but im afraid there wont be any new fx2 tables anymore and probably no updates anymore. innit?

[djb5f]

The old FX2 will stay available & playable, so.. they can still do that. Just not in FX3...

Well, those tables are played out, no ability to do that with the new tables.

Hm ... thats pretty sad ... we regularly had some pinparties goin where some friend hopped over to our place and we battled eachother in real life on the Vegapin, drinking a beer and havin a real life chat and a real-life steak on the grill ;-) And everybody enjoyed placing their Names in the local highscores. I guess real life fades away eventually. Not to mention my girlfriend just yelled over: Okay Dude ... we be stayin with FX2 then!! ... but im afraid there wont be any new fx2 tables anymore and probably no updates anymore. innit?

Agree. New tables are only FX3 so we are out of luck. Maybe they will add in a Top 10 local leaderboard with ability to enter initials, seems simple enough.

[MuddyWolf_Beta]

Maybe they will add in a Top 10 local leaderboard with ability to enter initials, seems simple enough.

Unfortunately I don’t think this is going to happen. The game is almost completely focussed on multiplayer online play. I’m not even sure if the game remembers a high score that you’ve set offline or if you can check your current one. (please correct me Akos if I’m wrong about this.)

Also, just because you love FX2 doesn’t mean you’re going to love FX3. FX3 is not an arcade pinball game. it’s a pinball rpg hybrid.
It doesn’t have an Operators Menu anymore. There are no stats. There’s now only one gameplay achievement per table and they are the same achievements as in FX2.

(Take Pasha for example. The ‘Defeat The Guardians’ mini game achievement is still there (you’re going to have to collect it again though) but the other achievement (beating the Wizard mode) is gone.)

I have 40 friends on Steam that are in the beta and together they’ve put something like 15 hours into the game in the last two weeks. But they are ALL Pinball FX2 veterans and most of them have already returned to FX2. That’s the reason why there’s so little buzz among the beta testers even now that the NDA has been lifted.

I’m not saying FX3 is a bad game. Not at all. It’s just a completely different experience. The focus in FX3 lies on different game modes in which you can upgrade and equip ‘Wizard’ powers to help you score. This upgrading is the meat of the game.

For example, the three primary Wizard powers are Slow motion, Score Multiplier and Rewind.
Before you start a game you must equip one of these Wizard powers. Once you’re playing, you activate them by pressing a special button on your joypad.

When you first play a table, the timers on these Wizard powers are all very low. Say, 2 seconds . But everytime you use a Wizard power, you upgrade a little until you reach Level 2. Then you can use the Wizard power for 4 seconds, etc. (The upgrades are permanent. They don’t reset when a game ends.)

You have to do this for each table separately and it also depends on the table how many times you have to use a Wizard power to upgrade it.

So for example: You equip the Wizard power Rewind and you’ve got it upgraded to level 2. If something goes wrong and you drain, you can travel 4 seconds back in time and try again. (People that have played the racing game Grid will know exactly how this power works.)

Speaking strictly for myself, I don’t think I’ll transfer my FX2 tables to FX3. I’ll probably buy a few table packs to see how my favorite tables look running on FX3’s engine but I’m too much of an old school pinball nut to switch entirely. I can’t help it. I think that Rewind power is cheating. Even if you’re a good player, you still don’t stand a chance against someone who has put dozens of hours into grinding those Wizard powers.

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[dok5555555]

Speaking strictly for myself, I don’t think I’ll transfer my FX2 tables to FX3. I’ll probably buy a few table packs to see how my favorite tables look running on FX3’s engine but I’m too much of an old school pinball nut to switch entirely. I can’t help it. I think that Rewind power is cheating. Even if you’re a good player, you still don’t stand a chance against someone who has put dozens of hours into grinding those Wizard powers.

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I'm pretty sure the transfer process doesn't remove the tables from FX2 so you can still download all ur tables on FX3 and be able to go back to them on FX2 whenever you wanted.

[deep]

... I’m too much of an old school pinball nut to switch entirely. I can’t help it...

But there is still a classic mode in PFX3 where there aren't any upgrades or anything with a separate leaderboard.

[MuddyWolf_Beta]

But there is still a classic mode in PFX3 where there aren't any upgrades or anything with a separate leaderboard.

Yes. But without local high scores and an Operators Menu. And you must admit that one gameplay achievement per table is not that much. It just feels very trimmed down. The only real step up are the graphics.

It would have been great if we could have played the one ball challenge & the time challenges without Wizard powers in Classic mode. Instead it’s exclusive to the rpg/upgrade side of the game.

I think I understand part of the reason why you guys chose not to do both, the amount of leaderboards would have become overwhelming, but it does shift the focus of the game.

[hunter328]

I’m not saying FX3 is a bad game. Not at all. It’s just a completely different experience. The focus in FX3 lies on different game modes in which you can upgrade and equip ‘Wizard’ powers to help you score. This upgrading is the meat of the game.

For example, the three primary Wizard powers are Slow motion, Score Multiplier and Rewind.
Before you start a game you must equip one of these Wizard powers. Once you’re playing, you activate them by pressing a special button on your joypad.



Speaking strictly for myself, I don’t think I’ll transfer my FX2 tables to FX3. I’ll probably buy a few table packs to see how my favorite tables look running on FX3’s engine but I’m too much of an old school pinball nut to switch entirely. I can’t help it. I think that Rewind power is cheating. Even if you’re a good player, you still don’t stand a chance against someone who has put dozens of hours into grinding those Wizard powers.

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Huh, the stuff about powers doesn't sound fun to me. For me the draw to Pinball is it's about your pinball skill and mastering the table.

Not sure what you're saying about transferring tables. Are you saying it would somehow remove the table from the previous game? That doesn't seem to make sense. Also, I don't think you'd have to buy your old tables as they'd be free.

[MuddyWolf_Beta]

Are you saying it would somehow remove the table from the previous game?

From what I've understood, Yes. If you own Deadpool (for example) in FX2 and you decide to transfer the table to FX3, it will be removed from your FX2 DLC library and be placed in your FX3 DLC library.

The transfer is indeed free, which is pretty cool of Zen, because you get to play the table on the new FX3 engine with all the features of FX3.

However, if you decide not to transfer Deadpool, it remains in your FX2 DLC library but you can't play it in FX3.
If you want Deadpool in both FX2 and FX3, you can go the FX3 store page, buy it and it will be added to your FX3 DLC library.

Akos, Deep, please correct me if I'm wrong but this what I've understood from all the faqs, threads and streams.

Also, sorry hunter, if I'm a little difficult to understand. English is not my first language. I try to be as clear as possible. I don't want to throw any false claims around.

[cantankerous--]

transfering tables

So, apparently, we must transfer the tables to an unknown new engine and then lose the tables from the previous version. I hate this and dont see why we cant have them on both. Im on ps4 so Im currently on zen pinball 2. If we do not like the new engine or features of pinball fx3 can we then later transfer our games back to zen pinball 2? Not liking the idea of wizard modes, but as long as they are on seperate leaderboards I guess it doesnt really matter.

[deep]

From what I've understood, Yes. If you own Deadpool (for example) in FX2 and you decide to transfer the table to FX3, it will be removed from your FX2 DLC library and be placed in your FX3 DLC library.

The transfer is indeed free, which is pretty cool of Zen, because you get to play the table on the new FX3 engine with all the features of FX3.

However, if you decide not to transfer Deadpool, it remains in your FX2 DLC library but you can't play it in FX3.
If you want Deadpool in both FX2 and FX3, you can go the FX3 store page, buy it and it will be added to your FX3 DLC library.

Akos, Deep, please correct me if I'm wrong but this what I've understood from all the faqs, threads and streams.

Also, sorry hunter, if I'm a little difficult to understand. English is not my first language. I try to be as clear as possible. I don't want to throw any false claims around.

Guys, we won't take anything that is already yours! Nothing will disappear what you already bought! Your collection remains intact. If you import your collection into PFX3, it remains in PFX2 either. You can play both. No worries!