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  • Vincent
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    Originally posted by deep View Post
    Sorry guys please be patient, we need couple days to make sure nobody loses progress with an already ongoing game.
    Couple of days... Seems to me like it's still starting at 10M... and shoots don't increase it... the countdown is slow, ok, but it's really not worth the effort, it's pointless...

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  • Vincent
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    Originally posted by steven120566 View Post
    Good work guys. Rome is one of the greatest tables IMO. I have always done the southern mission FIRST but never twice, I always moved on, and tried my best to get 'em all. So everyone will now be happy with a reduced, but then raised, Romulus
    Ha ha, Southern is so easy, I keep it for the end, Western is my first choice lol...

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  • steven120566
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    Good work guys. Rome is one of the greatest tables IMO. I have always done the southern mission FIRST but never twice, I always moved on, and tried my best to get 'em all. So everyone will now be happy with a reduced, but then raised, Romulus

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  • Vincent
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    So Deep, isnt that beautiful ? When is it coming ha ha I'm happy we found a middle ground

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  • wims_Beta
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    On the southern mission too, you have to hit several ramps to spell conquer, like you have to spell romulus for the multiball, but well, 25m is a good compromise.

    Oh and my mistake, the romulus jackpot isn't multiplied by the multiball upgrade, earn it causes the end of the multiball, so at this moment we only have one ball.

    For me the most important thing is that romulus JP wasnt the source of the highest scores anymore. And that's the case, now better things is to clear the table / play wizard mode with the upgrades.

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  • Vincent
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    Originally posted by wims_Beta View Post
    Hello, hi Vincent,

    It was me who asked deep during the beta to lower the Romulus Jackpot. Because on Pinball FX2 it was abnormally high, and that canceled all the interest of doing something else on this table. And more, with the new system of upgrades (multiball & score boost) this Jackpot could still be multiplied.

    We had agreed on an initial bonus of 10m, but maybe we thought it too quickly (there was many other things to balance), so sorry fot that. If this JP can be increased a little (just a little) and everybody can be happy, that's good.

    However, I wanted to comment what was said : the Southern mission can actually give 10 million, but in several hits (and not in a single shot like the Jackpot Romulus), and for that we must aim 5 times the same best sinkhole to 2m. It is also more risky than the multiball Romulus, this is a one ball mission. And now, with the Multiball upgrade, spamming Southern mission has no longer any interest, the wizard mode will be the best way to earn max of points. That's why I think this table is now more balanced.

    Edit : ah mais je vois que t'es français, il faut que tu viennes faire un tour sur mon forum.

    Hi, thank you for your message. I disagree that Romulus is a single-shot, since you first have to hit the locked ball several times. You have to do all of this during a multiball, which, if not risky, is at least far more difficult than with a single ball.

    I think 10M is very underrated. Deep made a reasonable proposal of 25M as an initial bonus, along with easier jackpot increase, which we agreed was a great idea as to reward actual ramp shooting. That way, Romulus is no longer associated with cheap scoring but still remains a very special mode,as intended by the designer : after all, Romulus is the father of Rome, and after his mortal death, he becomes a God (Quirinus), which is symbolized by the "blessing ramp" shot after lighting the letters.

    À bientôt
    Last edited by Vincent; 10-05-2017, 04:27 PM.

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  • wims_Beta
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    Hello, hi Vincent,

    It was me who asked deep during the beta to lower the Romulus Jackpot. Because on Pinball FX2 it was abnormally high, and that canceled all the interest of doing something else on this table. And more, with the new system of upgrades (multiball & score boost) this Jackpot could still be multiplied.

    We had agreed on an initial bonus of 10m, but maybe we thought it too quickly (there was many other things to balance), so sorry fot that. If this JP can be increased a little (just a little) and everybody can be happy, that's good.

    However, I wanted to comment what was said : the Southern mission can actually give 10 million, but in several hits (and not in a single shot like the Jackpot Romulus), and for that we must aim 5 times the same best sinkhole to 2m. It is also more risky than the multiball Romulus, this is a one ball mission. And now, with the Multiball upgrade, spamming Southern mission has no longer any interest, the wizard mode will be the best way to earn max of points. That's why I think this table is now more balanced.

    Edit : ah mais je vois que t'es français, il faut que tu viennes faire un tour sur mon forum.
    Last edited by wims_Beta; 10-04-2017, 10:40 AM.

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  • Vincent
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    Originally posted by deep View Post
    Sorry guys please be patient, we need couple days to make sure nobody loses progress with an already ongoing game.
    So when shall we see the modification ?

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  • Vincent
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    Ok Deep thank you.

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  • deep
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    Sorry guys please be patient, we need couple days to make sure nobody loses progress with an already ongoing game.

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  • Vincent
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    Originally posted by steven120566 View Post
    I agree Vincent, your arguments are sound. I never got the Romulus anyway, although I tries a heck of a lot LOL. I am one of those average players that almost all of the modifications seem to make sense to. The better ones like yourself, I can understanding wondering why lol.
    Haha lol, I got it a few times, and when it happens it's such a big joy... I'm kind of grieving

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  • steven120566
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    I agree Vincent, your arguments are sound. I never got the Romulus anyway, although I tried a heck of a lot LOL. I am one of those average players that almost all of the modifications seem to make sense to. The better ones like yourself, I can understand wondering why lol.

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  • Vincent
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    I think I already gave good arguments. Romulus is hard, if you only get 10M it will become useless, loose its purpose, that's what I'd hate. The middle ground we agreed on seems very reasonable and doesn't deter you from playing the missions at all. What is left of Romulus is nothing compared to Wizard Mode.

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  • steven120566
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    I am in agreement with deep's take. If you want to compromise, that's great, but ROME is one of the greatest digital tables ever. In terms of atmosphere, etc. It is better when played as a whole than to try to keep getting the massive multiball bonus. Am I the only player that thinks this was a great decision?

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  • Vincent
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    Originally posted by deep View Post
    Since we are early after release and this change adds to the scores and doesn't take from them, I think it's okay to do this. We don't exactly have a policy for changes, but we don't do many as you may know. Especially if the change would reduce the scores.
    This hasn't been done yet I checked the update, hope this is soon !

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