ROME Table - 10M Romulus ??

[cantankerous--]

The extra balls will remain the same as they are now. There are some bonus scores instead in 1 ball challenge.

The extra scores are already there? I didnt notice, but I appreciate the response deep. I have a different question. I used to love the pop ups in zen pinball 2 stating I was only x amount of points in overtaking someone on my friends list. Is that still in place and Im just overlooking it, or was it removed?

[deep]

While your in a generous mood Cloda and considering making changes, would you consider while in the 1 ball challenge allowing us to achieve extra balls, which are technically still ball 1? They are not always easy to achieve.

The extra balls will remain the same as they are now. There are some bonus scores instead in 1 ball challenge.

[Vincent]

I believe it was directed to surf1der's asking about Romulus.

[cantankerous--]

Since we are early after release and this change adds to the scores and doesn't take from them, I think it's okay to do this. We don't exactly have a policy for changes, but we don't do many as you may know. Especially if the change would reduce the scores.

Was this response directed towards me or Cloda or both Deep?

[Vincent]

Since we are early after release and this change adds to the scores and doesn't take from them, I think it's okay to do this. We don't exactly have a policy for changes, but we don't do many as you may know. Especially if the change would reduce the scores.

Yes and this is a kind of cas de force majeure since it can really not stay that way, making one of the major modes useless. Unfortunately I wasn't allowed to enter the beta-testing and had no idea what the new Romulus starting bonus would be, otherwise this discussion would have taken place at an earlier stage.

[deep]

Since we are early after release and this change adds to the scores and doesn't take from them, I think it's okay to do this. We don't exactly have a policy for changes, but we don't do many as you may know. Especially if the change would reduce the scores.

[cantankerous--]

How about I post a thread and get the communities feelings?

Most may very well agree with you, but thanks for responding Cloda.

[Cloda]

While your in a generous mood Cloda and considering making changes, would you consider while in the 1 ball challenge allowing us to achieve extra balls, which are technically still ball 1? They are not always easy to achieve.

Deep is the person you need to speak to . My opinion is that 1 ball challenge should stay just one ball...

[cantankerous--]

Not trying to steal Vincents thread

Now is probably the best time to make changes as FX3 is being released. In a months time it will already be too late

While your in a generous mood Cloda and considering making changes, would you consider while in the 1 ball challenge allowing us to achieve extra balls, which are technically still ball 1? They are not always easy to achieve.

[Vincent]

Remains yes, and all the other lanes do this too.

I really think your idea is brilliant and can reconcile both worlds, by forcing the player to earn his jackpot amount. The key for this to work is indeed to add some attractiveness to this mode, since of course it is a bit redundant with what Western G. has to offer : raising a jackpot within a multiball mode...

The Romulus will have the advantage to start at 25M and allow more bonus (since each ramp will score 1M, not only the small orbit), which will be a rightful compensation for the disadvantage of being much harder to complete (Western jackpot's validations each only requiring a shot into the Romulus hole) ; this is why this initial bonus is absolutely needed, it will act as a "boost" - and the fact that all ramps score 1M will not only prevent the countdown from quickly falling to 0, but also allow the player to actually increase the jackpot while trying to access to the final bust hole, which will maybe add some "juice" (risk) to the stuff... I honestly think this is a nice compromise, and it will really reward players who are good at shooting ramps, which is the whole purpose after all...

I'd be dying to know what the designer, Tamas Stephen, would say about it - if he's still around - after all, this is his baby...

[Cloda]

@deep, I haven't played Rome in a long time so I won't comment on the Romulus mode. But you seem quick to change the scoring of the table. Do you guys have a policy about rule set changes, fixing scoring imbalances, and bug fixes, and how these relate to leaderboards? If so, what is the policy? I remember barbie was hesitant to do leaderboard wipes because I believe she got death threats.

Now is probably the best time to make changes as FX3 is being released. In a months time it will already be too late

[surf1der]

@deep, I haven't played Rome in a long time so I won't comment on the Romulus mode. But you seem quick to change the scoring of the table. Do you guys have a policy about rule set changes, fixing scoring imbalances, and bug fixes, and how these relate to leaderboards? If so, what is the policy? I remember barbie was hesitant to do leaderboard wipes because I believe she got death threats.

[Cloda]

All right I hear you guys. I think it wouldn't be that bad to add a bit to the jackpot. Would 25M be okay for start, and an additional 1M for all the lane hits instead of couple hundred K points? I can now score a 40+ M jackpot easily. Would this be okay?

I haven't played the table in quite a while so can't remember everything that well, but that sounds great to me. Thank you for paying attention to our discussion and for your input.

I don't have the time anymore to be so involved as I used to be, but I'm still a keen supporter and look forward to a time when I'm in a better position to play all the tables that you have released over the last three years or so that I haven't had a chance to really touch (even though I still buy all the table as soon as they are available ;-)). I haven't found a table yet that I enjoy as much as Fantastic Four and Ms. Splosion Man is brilliant even though it doesn't have the longevity of Fantastic Four for me.

[deep]

Sounds awesome. And the effect of shooting the small flipper orbit will still remain the same, right ? i.e. raise the jackpot, same effect as in Western Garrison I guess...

Remains yes, and all the other lanes do this too.

[Vincent]

Sounds awesome. And the effect of shooting the small flipper orbit will still remain the same, right ? i.e. raise the jackpot, same effect as in Western Garrison I guess...