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  • #16
    Originally posted by LeanderL
    Jaws is awesome! Great design, atmosphere, excitement! ET is ok...BTTF is not my cup of tea. I love the movies but starting a game being trapped in missions is boring. Played with a friend and we were in missions 90% of the time. The 1885 mission is annoying with dozens of Native Americans and if you can't find a way past them, the mission goes on and on and you are "trapped" in it.

    Jaws made me feel seasick during the mode that makes the screen go left to right. It's a great idea but I really had dizzyness afterwards.

    Key to BTTF is to get either Flux or Out of Time Multiballs going. That way you can deal with the modes in each of the years. I actually thought that deep would get rid of Mutliballs modes that only only require a certain amount of bumper or spins to start. Out of time mulitiball you just shoot the center lane till you get 1.21 gigawatts and lock the balls. Though they ramp up (first you lock 2, then 3, then 4, then 5), it's still kind of easy to do. Not sure what the max Lock is but it does take a bit longer to do.

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    • #17
      I was disappointed to see standard DMD graphics in these new PBFX3 tables.

      Every major pinball manufacturer is now using LCD or at least color displays. Why is Zen holding back when they really could have done this easily years before real pinball machines did? It seems the jump from PBFX2 to PBFX3 would have been the obvious time to do this....especially when the first tables are licensed movie games that would already have the display visuals done.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by robthehermit
        That is disappointing to hear, the music from those films is so iconic that I'd worry that the tables will feel a bit hollow without it.
        The tables are top notch still, the music is a very important part, especially of those Movies =/

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        • #19
          I haven't played much E.T. but BttF and Jaws have been great.

          BttF I reached Wizard mode and at one point had an 8-10 ball multiball going. It was insane.

          Jaws seasick effect is one of the craziest Zen effects yet. Left me reeling and missing everything for a solid minute after the mode ended

          Also I gotta disagree with the poster above that wants multicolor DMD, or more modern LED screens. For me personally the traditional solid color DMD looks way more beautiful than anything on a multicolor DMD.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by LeanderL
            Jaws is awesome! Great design, atmosphere, excitement! ET is ok...BTTF is not my cup of tea. I love the movies but starting a game being trapped in missions is boring. Played with a friend and we were in missions 90% of the time. The 1885 mission is annoying with dozens of Native Americans and if you can't find a way past them, the mission goes on and on and you are "trapped" in it.

            Jaws made me feel seasick during the mode that makes the screen go left to right. It's a great idea but I really had dizzyness afterwards.
            You cannot be trapped in main modes since all the side modes avaliable during them. The indians will come back after more and more time if you hit their targets.

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            • #21
              Well I finally got to both wizard modes on JAWS in the same game. I did well on the Quint wizard mode but I tanked the Jaws wizard mode and drained my ball without hitting a single shot. Got #1 on the iOS leaderboard. The missions are incredibly fun and I like the open design of the table. The artwork, animation and rule set are top notch. The only knocks against the game are the lack of the original John Williams score and the left outlane. The left outlane is just a miserable ball sink.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Jamman39
                I haven't played much E.T. but BttF and Jaws have been great.

                BttF I reached Wizard mode and at one point had an 8-10 ball multiball going. It was insane.

                Jaws seasick effect is one of the craziest Zen effects yet. Left me reeling and missing everything for a solid minute after the mode ended

                Also I gotta disagree with the poster above that wants multicolor DMD, or more modern LED screens. For me personally the traditional solid color DMD looks way more beautiful than anything on a multicolor DMD.
                I've spent the most time with E.T. because it's the type of fast game I like best. Jaws is amazing because of how it does what Pinball FX does best which is making the impossible/uneconomic game possible. BttF seems ok but it just seems like it's throwing up Biffs and Indians and hoverboarding Martys to make you take time to set up shots.

                I am fine with multicolor DMDs just as long as it's a new game. Seeing a machine that I've enjoyed for 20 years updated just so you can make it better is like putting spinning rims on a car, under the hood it's the same car but you want to show off. I would love to see an in table LED like in the new Star Wars and Dialed In while I haven't played it yet looks really impressive.

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                • #23
                  I bought the pack on Nintendo Switch and I'm disappointed, sadly there is no refund available. BttF and E.T tables looks bland and visually flat, I feel no interest to play them anymore, even if BttF has interesting mechanics. Jaws table is ok but the other two are waste of money. If I compare them to Adventure Land it's like night and day, Adventure land looks gorgeous.

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                  • #24
                    Does anyone know if the Outta Time multiball on BT F jacpots automatically increase each time? What about hovercraft multiball as well? Thank you, happy new year to all!!
                    http://www.pinballmuseum.org/ The City Is My Church

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by lasvegaspinballhalloffame
                      Does anyone know if the Outta Time multiball on BT F jacpots automatically increase each time? What about hovercraft multiball as well? Thank you, happy new year to all!!
                      Okay, the Outatime jackpot starts at 100k X the number of balls it starts with. The licence plate adds 25k per spin to it when the multiball runs and additionally you can raise it by 400k from the Doc's award.

                      The Hover/Skateboard jackpot is a bit complicated. There is a minimum and a maximum value of it. When the board comes out a countdown starts from the maximum value and it gives you the actual value when you hit it. If you don't hit it, it gives you the minimum value when it gets back. The min and max values raise with every start of the multiball.

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