First impressions on Universal Pack

[deep]

Does anyone know if the Outta Time multiball on BT F jacpots automatically increase each time? What about hovercraft multiball as well? Thank you, happy new year to all!!

Okay, the Outatime jackpot starts at 100k X the number of balls it starts with. The licence plate adds 25k per spin to it when the multiball runs and additionally you can raise it by 400k from the Doc's award.

The Hover/Skateboard jackpot is a bit complicated. There is a minimum and a maximum value of it. When the board comes out a countdown starts from the maximum value and it gives you the actual value when you hit it. If you don't hit it, it gives you the minimum value when it gets back. The min and max values raise with every start of the multiball.

[lasvegaspinballhalloffame]

Does anyone know if the Outta Time multiball on BT F jacpots automatically increase each time? What about hovercraft multiball as well? Thank you, happy new year to all!!

[mspeedo]

I bought the pack on Nintendo Switch and I'm disappointed, sadly there is no refund available. BttF and E.T tables looks bland and visually flat, I feel no interest to play them anymore, even if BttF has interesting mechanics. Jaws table is ok but the other two are waste of money. If I compare them to Adventure Land it's like night and day, Adventure land looks gorgeous.

[LiquidSightDrip]

I haven't played much E.T. but BttF and Jaws have been great.

BttF I reached Wizard mode and at one point had an 8-10 ball multiball going. It was insane.

Jaws seasick effect is one of the craziest Zen effects yet. Left me reeling and missing everything for a solid minute after the mode ended

Also I gotta disagree with the poster above that wants multicolor DMD, or more modern LED screens. For me personally the traditional solid color DMD looks way more beautiful than anything on a multicolor DMD.

I've spent the most time with E.T. because it's the type of fast game I like best. Jaws is amazing because of how it does what Pinball FX does best which is making the impossible/uneconomic game possible. BttF seems ok but it just seems like it's throwing up Biffs and Indians and hoverboarding Martys to make you take time to set up shots.

I am fine with multicolor DMDs just as long as it's a new game. Seeing a machine that I've enjoyed for 20 years updated just so you can make it better is like putting spinning rims on a car, under the hood it's the same car but you want to show off. I would love to see an in table LED like in the new Star Wars and Dialed In while I haven't played it yet looks really impressive.

[surf1der]

Well I finally got to both wizard modes on JAWS in the same game. I did well on the Quint wizard mode but I tanked the Jaws wizard mode and drained my ball without hitting a single shot. Got #1 on the iOS leaderboard. The missions are incredibly fun and I like the open design of the table. The artwork, animation and rule set are top notch. The only knocks against the game are the lack of the original John Williams score and the left outlane. The left outlane is just a miserable ball sink.

[deep]

Jaws is awesome! Great design, atmosphere, excitement! ET is ok...BTTF is not my cup of tea. I love the movies but starting a game being trapped in missions is boring. Played with a friend and we were in missions 90% of the time. The 1885 mission is annoying with dozens of Native Americans and if you can't find a way past them, the mission goes on and on and you are "trapped" in it.

Jaws made me feel seasick during the mode that makes the screen go left to right. It's a great idea but I really had dizzyness afterwards.

You cannot be trapped in main modes since all the side modes avaliable during them. The indians will come back after more and more time if you hit their targets.

[Jamman39]

I haven't played much E.T. but BttF and Jaws have been great.

BttF I reached Wizard mode and at one point had an 8-10 ball multiball going. It was insane.

Jaws seasick effect is one of the craziest Zen effects yet. Left me reeling and missing everything for a solid minute after the mode ended

Also I gotta disagree with the poster above that wants multicolor DMD, or more modern LED screens. For me personally the traditional solid color DMD looks way more beautiful than anything on a multicolor DMD.

[SpieleNerd]

That is disappointing to hear, the music from those films is so iconic that I'd worry that the tables will feel a bit hollow without it.

The tables are top notch still, the music is a very important part, especially of those Movies =/

[DugFreez]

I was disappointed to see standard DMD graphics in these new PBFX3 tables.

Every major pinball manufacturer is now using LCD or at least color displays. Why is Zen holding back when they really could have done this easily years before real pinball machines did? It seems the jump from PBFX2 to PBFX3 would have been the obvious time to do this....especially when the first tables are licensed movie games that would already have the display visuals done.

[Sgt_Tenor]

Jaws is awesome! Great design, atmosphere, excitement! ET is ok...BTTF is not my cup of tea. I love the movies but starting a game being trapped in missions is boring. Played with a friend and we were in missions 90% of the time. The 1885 mission is annoying with dozens of Native Americans and if you can't find a way past them, the mission goes on and on and you are "trapped" in it.

Jaws made me feel seasick during the mode that makes the screen go left to right. It's a great idea but I really had dizzyness afterwards.

Key to BTTF is to get either Flux or Out of Time Multiballs going. That way you can deal with the modes in each of the years. I actually thought that deep would get rid of Mutliballs modes that only only require a certain amount of bumper or spins to start. Out of time mulitiball you just shoot the center lane till you get 1.21 gigawatts and lock the balls. Though they ramp up (first you lock 2, then 3, then 4, then 5), it's still kind of easy to do. Not sure what the max Lock is but it does take a bit longer to do.

[LeanderL]

Jaws is awesome! Great design, atmosphere, excitement! ET is ok...BTTF is not my cup of tea. I love the movies but starting a game being trapped in missions is boring. Played with a friend and we were in missions 90% of the time. The 1885 mission is annoying with dozens of Native Americans and if you can't find a way past them, the mission goes on and on and you are "trapped" in it.

Jaws made me feel seasick during the mode that makes the screen go left to right. It's a great idea but I really had dizzyness afterwards.

[GruffMckenzie]

The left outlane of JAWS is brutal. It's a ball magnet and the left kickback mechanic is very hard to light. I think you light it with combo shots but this table is very difficult to combo shots on. The right outlane has less of a drain problem but lighting the kickback by hitting the right vari-target has this annoying habit of feeding the right outlane. So you end up activating the right kickback only to have it immediately wasted when the ball drains into the outlane after it hits the target. The missions on JAWS are really fun but that left outlane tends to kill all my momentum.

On a side note, the table guide for Jaws hints at a secret skillshot. I have gotten the regular and double skillshot. Has anyone found the secret skillshot?

Edit: I'm playing this on my iPad so the physics might be very different on console/pc.

Yeah I think I found it if I'm remembering correctly...

But I don't want to spoil it!

Highlight to see
Behind the mid lefthand flipper

[chivato]

If you cant use the real OSTs of some tables maybe its better to not make the table at all.

Having said that, I like the design of all three of the tables.
Jaws is my favorite of the pack.

[surf1der]

The left outlane of JAWS is brutal. It's a ball magnet and the left kickback mechanic is very hard to light. I think you light it with combo shots but this table is very difficult to combo shots on. The right outlane has less of a drain problem but lighting the kickback by hitting the right vari-target has this annoying habit of feeding the right outlane. So you end up activating the right kickback only to have it immediately wasted when the ball drains into the outlane after it hits the target. The missions on JAWS are really fun but that left outlane tends to kill all my momentum.

On a side note, the table guide for Jaws hints at a secret skillshot. I have gotten the regular and double skillshot. Has anyone found the secret skillshot?

Edit: I'm playing this on my iPad so the physics might be very different on console/pc.

[cantankerous--]

Yes, I read that yet still, The lack of the music theme is disappointing. The immersion just isn't there. Especially if you enjoyed the music by John Williams and Alan Silvestri's scores. They are top notch and should be as accessible as the SW theme. The voices for BTTF isn't bad. Marty's is Pretty good. Doc Not so much but to here the lines from the movie is still fun as heck.

I understand that everyone wants their cut and licensing is necessary to the minutia, but how can a company give a license for beloved movies and then not insist that the original score be incorporated? Games like this make you remember how great these movies were and make you want to see them again with your children who will later go see the latest reboot. I couldnt even begin to imagine playing any of SW tables without the actual music. That being said, the voices are not that far off in the BTTF table, and its hella fun.