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    how are the scores in matchup mode calculated? i have the impression that it`s basically pick a easy taget,get the 40 points over and over again,which would give people that can play for 6 or 10 hours a day an advantage over those with less playing time,if that`s the case it is the most pointless tournament ever made in a game.hope somebody can enlighten me.
    Last edited by Uwe; 09-28-2017, 09:27 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Uwe View Post
    how are the scores in matchup mode calculated? i have the impression that it`s basically pick a easy taget,get the 40 points over and over again,which would give people that can play for 6 or 10 hours a day an advantage over those with less playing time,if that`s the case it is the most pointless tournament ever made in a game.hope somebody can enlighten me.
    I would imagine that as time progresses and things sort themselves out it will be harder to obtain the scores being matched. And then you will start losing points on failed attempts.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Uwe View Post
      how are the scores in matchup mode calculated? i have the impression that it`s basically pick a easy taget,get the 40 points over and over again,which would give people that can play for 6 or 10 hours a day an advantage over those with less playing time,if that`s the case it is the most pointless tournament ever made in a game.hope somebody can enlighten me.
      I agree. It should be limited to 1 - 3 game play attempts per table. I honestly think it should be 1 try per game. You can always practice it before hand on your own time.

      Also....why is it timed? Why not have this mode as 1 attempt on 4 different tables. Choose your competitors (as it is now. Good risk reward decision on how strong you feel you are on each game ) easy score, med score or hard score to beat, but you only get 1 attempt on each game in a 3 ball (no free balls) game. No boosters or power ups or anything like that. Just the game with the same basic setting as everyone else you are playing against.

      If you like you could have a booster league and a standard league. If you have a booster league, you might as well allow extra balls also.

      I originally saw this mode and got excited...then I looked at it and realized it was made by someone that wanted to push "play more, play more, play more, buy all the table, play more, buy, buy, buy, play more" instead of someone that had actually played in a pinball league.

      I have to say there is not one new mode in PBFX3 that excites me at all. They are all "play until you win" modes. If you want that...that is fine, but make limited tournament and league modes also. Where if you suck...you suck. Just like real pinball leagues and tournaments...sometimes you are on and sometimes you are off...there are no try agains or re-dos. If you are a bronze 3 level player...you will be playing in bronze 3 until you improve.

      This is coming from a 5 year, B level league player (very inconsistent and mediocre) that likes participating and trying to improve.

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      • #4
        I agree with everything DugFreez said.when i looked at the matchup ranks today i got knocked down 10 spots just because somebody played longer than me.this is not a skill based mode,it`s a grinding contest.

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        • #5
          Matchup mode is completely pointless, please can more people voice this. I'm sorry to say this but these people on the top of the leaderboards need to get a life, it's very sad their repeating the same thing over and over.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SirenXp View Post
            Matchup mode is completely pointless, please can more people voice this. I'm sorry to say this but these people on the top of the leaderboards need to get a life, it's very sad their repeating the same thing over and over.
            i doubt that this will get changed,on this Forum the so called Community Manager only answers when the Game gets praise,critical Posts get ignored.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SirenXp View Post
              Matchup mode is completely pointless, please can more people voice this. I'm sorry to say this but these people on the top of the leaderboards need to get a life, it's very sad their repeating the same thing over and over.
              I totally agree. Grind the same tables for 5 minutes easily beating each for an entire week? And hopefully you will be in the top 20% so that next week they can double the scores and you can still easily beat them? Ya, I got better stuff to do than just do the same thing over and over and over and over again................................unless its sex, and even then you gotta mix it up from time to time.

              Before one of you smart guys chime in. There is no 5 minute time limit for sex.
              Accomplishments in real life

              1. Rolled a star wars machine................ie played over 99 levels and rolled it back to level 1.
              2. Rolled Nintendo punch out, several times, same quarter.
              3. Played an entire game of dragons lair and completed it and won while blindfolded.
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              • #8
                Are 20% grinding though?
                Once the leagues get established there may still be merit in the system.

                I will wait and see how this goes, although you could be right, I feel the level I will fall at it will be a challenge in itself to get enogh points to be able to beat harder opponents.

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                • #9
                  I think something that'd fix this somewhat would be to give every player a certain number of tries on each of the four tables (15-20 maybe). That way grinding wouldn't be a factor. Once you're done for the week your score is set. The extra points for dominance would also prevent hundreds of people having the same score in the end. At the moment I'd have to agree with what the others said. In this mode it doesn't matter how good you are just how much you play. Unless the scores you have to get even with the easiest option become A LOT more difficult it will just be about who plays the most.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Uwe View Post
                    how are the scores in matchup mode calculated? i have the impression that it`s basically pick a easy taget,get the 40 points over and over again,which would give people that can play for 6 or 10 hours a day an advantage over those with less playing time,if that`s the case it is the most pointless tournament ever made in a game.hope somebody can enlighten me.
                    I agree very much. It's pointless. Just adapt the tournament modes that are played in real life pinball. They are approved to work well otherwise no one would compete in tournaments.

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                    • #11
                      i dont bother with it anymore,but if somebody who makes it to the next level could report back if it`s a different challenge or the same crap with higher target scores .im curious about that.oh btw do any zen employees bother to respond in this forum?

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                      • #12
                        ok,it`s the exact same grinding contest on the next level ,oh yes you need to stay in the last 90%percent? that would make it even easier if my math is correct. i hope this is not the promised superb pinball multiplayer experience they advertised,if it is big time fail.
                        Last edited by Uwe; 10-03-2017, 12:44 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Uwe View Post
                          ok,it`s the exact same grinding contest on the next level ,oh yes you need to stay in the last 90%percent? that would make it even easier if my math is correct. i hope this is not the promised superb pinball multiplayer experience they advertised,if it is big time fail.
                          I thought the scores would at least double. Seems weird its the same poo as last week. It should get harder each week. And I can only assume those who did not make the cut have the same as last week? I dont know cause I made the cut and cant see what those who did not are having to do.
                          Accomplishments in real life

                          1. Rolled a star wars machine................ie played over 99 levels and rolled it back to level 1.
                          2. Rolled Nintendo punch out, several times, same quarter.
                          3. Played an entire game of dragons lair and completed it and won while blindfolded.
                          sigpic

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Uwe View Post
                            ok,it`s the exact same grinding contest on the next level ,oh yes you need to stay in the last 90%percent? that would make it even easier if my math is correct. i hope this is not the promised superb pinball multiplayer experience they advertised,if it is big time fail.
                            It is even worse now. Because only the top 20% of the players made it to the next league, the percentage of players willing to grind is much higher there.

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                            • #15
                              i just saw that the guy in the nr.1 spot has 5600 points already,probably by playing the family guy table all day and spam the chicken shot.this mode is so messed up it`s unbelievable.
                              Last edited by Uwe; 10-03-2017, 06:50 PM.

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