What's everyone's Top 5 BEST and Top 5 WORST Tables?

[djb5f]

Favorites:
Empire Strikes Back
Boba Fett
Return of the Jedi
Starfighter Assault
Force Awakens
The Avengers
Ghost Rider
Epic Quest
Plants vs. Zombies
Super League Football
South Park: Super-Sweet Pinball
CastleStorm
Wild West Rampage
American Dad

Least Favorite:
Mars
Marvel’s Women of Power
Street Fighter II
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
Venom
Deadpool
Iron Man
X-Men
Portal
DOOM

Have not had a chance to play the newer Pinball FX3 tables yet but they look good!

Let me add Back to the Future for favorites.

Some of the Williams go on my least favorites as they aren’t as enticing in that I have already played them enough on The Pinball Aracde. Here’s to hoping Zen adds some new concept tables like a Star Wars one to go with the Rise of Skywalker movie.

[Capta1n0bvious3]

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/capta1n0b...video/85031422
Here it is, took a whole day to upload for some reason.
I got 2 extra balls, I usually don't do well getting them but got 2, 1 right after the other.
Also many times it didn't even give me the 5, 10 or 20 million after getting new upgrades, it just gave more opportunities for multiball. About 1 in 3 gave me the 5,10, or 20 million.
Also it is 50 times up those 2 lanes to upgrade tires and you can get them in combos as long as you only hit either of those lanes one after another. If you hit a different lane you have to wait again.
This is my final score:
https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/capta1n0b...nshot/14446170

[cantankerous--]

I finally upgraded everything on v12.
According to the guide, Peak performance was supposed to automatically be available at the upgrade hole.
It seems that this is no longer the case. Either there is no longer wizard mode or they changed it.
For me what happens is I needed to make another upgrade, then hit the upgrade hole and do the upgrade multiball. The table never resets, you can just keep doing this and keep getting upgrades and playing multiball at maximum score. For example, you need to hit 10 shots in crankshaft to get the upgrade hole lit, if you don't hit 10 in the same run you don't get it. Suspension is the same, not exactly what turbo is to light this, and tires seem to be 10 more hits.
I'll post the video when xbox live decides to upload it.
Thanks again for the help.

I'd love to see a video to help me to understand better. I have max upgraded various components without upgrading them all and I know that once done it merely gives you 5 million without the upgrade (multiball). Did you happen to max out xtra balls? What did you get? I usually only get 5 extra, but was certain I got more once, but did not record it at the time.

[Capta1n0bvious3]

Finally got to "wizard mode?"

I finally upgraded everything on v12.
According to the guide, Peak performance was supposed to automatically be available at the upgrade hole.
It seems that this is no longer the case. Either there is no longer wizard mode or they changed it.
For me what happens is I needed to make another upgrade, then hit the upgrade hole and do the upgrade multiball. The table never resets, you can just keep doing this and keep getting upgrades and playing multiball at maximum score. For example, you need to hit 10 shots in crankshaft to get the upgrade hole lit, if you don't hit 10 in the same run you don't get it. Suspension is the same, not exactly what turbo is to light this, and tires seem to be 10 more hits.
I'll post the video when xbox live decides to upload it.
Thanks again for the help.

[Lepruk86]

So I've not posted here in years maybe?

Howdy all (to those that remember me).

I've gotten back into PBFX recently (I went a bit down the real pinball route).

Whilst I own almost all of the tables on xbox360 (I know, old at this point!) and have over the years re-purchased them on Steam, I can't say I have played that many for any considerable time. So here's my top 5 ranked by the fun I had playing them either at point of release or through revisits.

Quick note, I am 100% not a starwars guy, it was around that time that I stopped playing pbfx2, I also began to suffer the Marvel fatigue like most people did when Marvel felt like the only tables we were getting.

all that said I did really like the early Marvel Tables as you'll see:

• Spider-man - This table is one of the first that I got truly addicted to. The wizard mode took me around 20 hours of playtime to get to, and even then another 10 hours to actually beat once I was able to get there. I remember the thrill of finally completing a table and being just singularly focused. As table selection was a lot lower at this point (maybe 10-15 total? with the first Marvel pack) it was far easier to just focus on one table and not get distracted. I loved that you can trigger multiple modes at once, and all the shots felt fun and flowed well. Even if it's been outdone design wise (and I think game's go too long on Spider-man now) it's still an iconically addictive newbie friendly table with really fun boss battles.
• Iron-Man - Kind of my white whale. To this day I have never gotten to the wizard mode on this table. I've been very very close several times, but I always just end up draining balls down the side or centre after hitting the main mission targets, even with ball save active I feel this table is a drainer. But I think that's why this is a table I just gravitate toward, with the vein hope that one day... I'll clear it.
  
• Pasha - Holy heck is this table boring... until it isn't! The mini playfield and modes are really difficult to open and play, the oasis shot can be a nightmare to hit and overall this table just feels really clunky to play, until you get it. Once you start being able to consistently hit the annoying shots and start the modes, there's so much to do on this oddly short but wide table that it just ends up having a really nice flow. Mechanically it's probably severely out-of-date but to new fans, don't skip this one, it's great if you are looking for a table with fun stuff hidden away.
• Thor - This was my second 'Iron Man' table (which I think it's from the same designer?). I came very very close but never quite able to conquer the wizard mode, but I really just like the ramp shots on this. Unlike Iron Man which has some harsh drain bounces, Thor feels very fair. It's a very high skill table with missions that require oddly specific shots i.e. set ball on fire to then melt ice etc. I think that's what makes Thor flow so well for me personally.
• Epic Quest - Epic Quest's combo heavy playstyle (literally with the attacking and defending) and clever spells and inventory mechanics really spoke to me. The table is a bit gimmicky given that you have to level up to beat the final boss and complete it over multiple runs but the table has lots of cool gadgets to bounce off and bonuses to unlock. It has loads of hittable targets and variety, and most ramps all lead to different weird areas, all with their own mini 'toys'. The voice clips can get a bit tedious but the table itself is a true delight to play and whilst I don't have much desire to replay the whole adventure after my several hours with it and beating it, I do very fondly remember falling in love with this table akin to when I first played Spider-man.

Two Honorable Mentions: Mars and Fantastic Four.

Mars just went on too long. Most missions took a while to complete but the game wasn't hard, just a bit tedious. All that said, it's one of my most played tables of that era, especially out of the Zen original tables. It's very urm... 'zen'-like (for lack of a better term).

As for FF, I think it's a table I would have really loved if I gave it the time but despite buying the pack, I was still invested in some of my other favourites and thus never got round to playing it in any depth.

The less detailed top 5 worst tables:

• FX Classics - Cheating a bit but I just don't enjoy these tables.
• Excalibur
• Rome
• Secrets of the Deep
• Wolverine

Whilst not a bad table I'll also add a most disappointing table: Ms, Splosion Man. Simply because I literally completed it the very first time I played it and ended up draining balls on purpose to end the game. This table was just way too easy.

All that said, back to trying to beat Iron Man!

[cantankerous--]

Not sure if you can see this if you can't login to xbox live, this is just a 5 minute clip of the farthest I've gotten so far.
If you still play this table recently, you can get a much higher mulitball score by switching your upgrades to multiball score. Mine jumped way up like that.
I also use rewind instead..... cause I need it....I would rather use the score booster.
Also I just got the top score on the 1 ball challenge at 546 million.
Anyway thanks for the help. If I manage to get to the wizard mode I'll post a clip of it.

Even though I currently have the 1ball challenge record, I put little stock in it since it and every other 1ball challenge or any game mode that allows you to save is easily cheated. I much prefer my survival challenge score. Congrats on your number 1 though
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[Mataeus]

I currently have 55 tables,so far,but yet to decide on what's the BEST and WORST from the tables available....

So for all the people,who have played FX3,and spent more time than I have...

Can you list your Top 5 BEST and WORST?

(This could be a good guide for others, on what's best to purchase..)

My personal TOP 5 across all three games, in no particular order:

Epic Quest
Funny, makes you feel like you're good at pinball, and has a unique mechanic that means you're constantly building higher scores game after game.

Plants Vs Zombies
Really fun missions and hurry up modes, and just looks gorgeous.

Mars
Big and open with great music and fun modes, and a great theme overall

Skyrim
The level of detail in this table is insane. Most stuff from Skyrim is in there, from the main quest to collecting the materials for crafting

Aliens
From the sound bytes to the table flow, the missions to the animations, it's a killer table

My personal BOTTOM 5 across all three games, in no particular order:

Shaman
I hate everything about this table, from the shots you have to make to the audiovisuals

Biolab
Don't enjoy the flow, the setup or the look

Jaws
The table rocking does my head in

The Empire Strikes Back

Just boring, and the speeder Mini game is plain stupid. Should have been a video mode.

[Capta1n0bvious3]

https://xboxclips.com/Capta1n0bvious3/e368a2c7-6152-4e91-b671-23e8a6fca840/embed

Not sure if you can see this if you can't login to xbox live, this is just a 5 minute clip of the farthest I've gotten so far.
If you still play this table recently, you can get a much higher mulitball score by switching your upgrades to multiball score. Mine jumped way up like that.
I also use rewind instead..... cause I need it....I would rather use the score booster.
Also I just got the top score on the 1 ball challenge at 546 million.
Anyway thanks for the help. If I manage to get to the wizard mode I'll post a clip of it.

https://xboxclips.com/Capta1n0bvious3/e368a2c7-6152-4e91-b671-23e8a6fca840/embed

[cantankerous--]

V12 1 ball WR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STD8hacV6tA&t=447s

I also have a video of the survival WR, but it apparently never uploaded to my channel on youtube so I will reupload it from my ps4 and post here.

I'm on PS4 so you can't see my scores, but I have higher than xbox as confirmed by peeps who posted pics of the leaderboards.

The two scores above me are both clearly cheats or glitches

v12high.jpg

wrv12.jpg

[Capta1n0bvious3]

Can you post a link to one of the videos?
BTW, tires is 10, 20, 30, 40.... That's the highest I've gotten. Now I've also gotten to all other upgrades complete except for manifold level 4 still, but that's easily doable.
761 million is now my best.
Found 2 other things that made this table easier.
First, I use view 2 so I can see that upper flipper and now turbo shot is much easier, I can usually max out that every game now.
Second, I try to stack upgrades instead of going for them as soon as I can. Upgrade multiball was losing my kickbacks and I was losing the ball a lot that way, so I get as many as possible before upgrading.
Are you on PS3-4 or PC or are you using a different gamer tag? I'm playing on xbox one. I'm using the same name as I am here.

[cantankerous--]

I know I posted above v12 and secrets of the deep tables were some of the worst tables in my opinion, I realized I had never really given these tables a chance. I didn't know them at all.
For example I didn't realize there was a flipper right above the left outlane in V12. All I remembered was the ball constantly drained down the left side.
So thanks to a few videos I skimmed through and the great guides that are posted here I have been playing both.
Secrets is actually pretty good and I am now really liking V12.
It's a hard table, but I've found that if I follow these rules when playing, I do pretty well.

Light kickbacks
Always keep left flipper up, except when suspension is ready to upgrade. Most times I forget this cause I'm so worried about losing ball on right side.
After multiball, always relight kickbacks.
Keep trying to hit tire upgrade lane if not in combo mode. Seems like 20 shots before it's ready to upgrade. Any idea how many it takes?
Then it's always try to hit crankshaft target to get to manifold upgrade.
Haven't really tried much for turbo, I think I only got it once.
Still only have tried this table a few times. Top score was 198 million with multiball and ball save and rewind upgrades. I always use rewind. I've played this over the last few days only.

Secrets I have played more, that table is mostly just getting good at it's multiball modes. I've made it to wizard mode a few times and completed it once. scored 774 million once with same upgrades as v12. I spent a few weeks on this table

As the person with 2 wr's on that table let me shed a little more light regarding my own specific tips. First I prefer the faster game types like survival, but have a game over a billion on single player so I'm ranked in top 10 or better and have the single ball record. As you said, take your time and always light the kick backs. A third shot lights ball save. You can get a shit ton of extra balls. I don't recall exactly, but 6?? I'm sure if any previous zen table is an example that this may be exploited to be endless. I remember before they changed the physics from zen pinball to zen pinball 2 you could get 3 extra balls on each ball. In game modes like 5 minute and survival stack your upgrades. Suspension can be started if the shots are accurate within 20 seconds and I can do this at the start of the game about 50 percent of the time. Watch my videos to see how it is achieved. Honestly, If I don't do it perfectly I just reset over and over and over again until I nail it. As you said, always keep the left flipper depressed as anything approaches that lane. Turbo is a bitch and as such I have never wizard moded this table. Extra balls are only achieved by maxing out your speed then awarded at upgrade hole. The crankshaft upgrade is not that hard. To hit the button on either the left or right you want to catch the ball on the respective flipper and just do a quick flip where you don't fully hit the flipper and it will, if done correctly hit the button and pass to the other flipper where you can repeat................It's takes practice and I rarely can achieve the upgrade without several tries. You'll likely never fully upgrade the tires as it continues to go up with the final one taking over 100 as I recall.....................it's a horrible table to try and wizard with likely less than 5 people excluding me who have ever achieved it.

[Capta1n0bvious3]

V12...

I know I posted above v12 and secrets of the deep tables were some of the worst tables in my opinion, I realized I had never really given these tables a chance. I didn't know them at all.
For example I didn't realize there was a flipper right above the left outlane in V12. All I remembered was the ball constantly drained down the left side.
So thanks to a few videos I skimmed through and the great guides that are posted here I have been playing both.
Secrets is actually pretty good and I am now really liking V12.
It's a hard table, but I've found that if I follow these rules when playing, I do pretty well.

Light kickbacks
Always keep left flipper up, except when suspension is ready to upgrade. Most times I forget this cause I'm so worried about losing ball on right side.
After multiball, always relight kickbacks.
Keep trying to hit tire upgrade lane if not in combo mode. Seems like 20 shots before it's ready to upgrade. Any idea how many it takes?
Then it's always try to hit crankshaft target to get to manifold upgrade.
Haven't really tried much for turbo, I think I only got it once.
Still only have tried this table a few times. Top score was 198 million with multiball and ball save and rewind upgrades. I always use rewind. I've played this over the last few days only.

Secrets I have played more, that table is mostly just getting good at it's multiball modes. I've made it to wizard mode a few times and completed it once. scored 774 million once with same upgrades as v12. I spent a few weeks on this table

[Sambrichh]

What's everyone's Top 5 BEST and Top 5 WORST Tables? Your Message

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[Vincent]

Why not make a pool ?

Best :
- Excalibur
- Rome
- Mars
- Secrets of the Deep
- Iron Man

Worst :

- Ms. Splosion Man (stupidly easy with crazy amount of extra balls)

[HighFive]

Best:
-Medieva Madness
-Attack From Mars
-Fish Tales
-The Gateway
-Theater of Magic

Somewhere in the middle:
-Party Zone
-Safecracker
-Black Rose

Worst
- Junkyard
- Champions Pub