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  • #46
    Is Zen not willing to answer my question, or not able to?

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    • #47
      Arrgh! I had a 2nd place on one of the portal challenge modes behind one of these guys for ages and was waiting for him to be removed. Now someone else just took 2nd ahead of me. So if/when he gets banned, I'll have missed out on my little taste of 1st place. Awwww

      Also if someone knows their fake score is going to stay up for more than 6 months before anyone even talks about doing anything, then it's hardly an incentive not to cheat, is it?

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      • #48
        Yo, Zen! I noticed another 30B+ score appeared on Sorcerer's Lair the other day, but it's gone already. Someone's removing scores and there must be a good reason, going by Chili's comments about having to be totally certain before deleting scores from the server.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by gaz5021 View Post
          Yo, Zen! I noticed another 30B+ score appeared on Sorcerer's Lair the other day, but it's gone already. Someone's removing scores and there must be a good reason, going by Chili's comments about having to be totally certain before deleting scores from the server.
          Zen have been constantly removing fake scores from the Singleplayer Wizard & Superscore leaderboards lately on PS4. I've noticed the same guy (who keeps cycling his name & level) having his ludicrous scores removed, then he rapidly replaces them with new ones. Glad to see Zen making a concerted effort to keep the leaderboards as clean as they possibly can, & I hope this continues to be the case. I pity these cheats, they're beyond pathetic & I'll never understand their mindset.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by TuttiDeLeon View Post
            Zen have been constantly removing fake scores from the Singleplayer Wizard & Superscore leaderboards lately on PS4. I've noticed the same guy (who keeps cycling his name & level) having his ludicrous scores removed, then he rapidly replaces them with new ones. Glad to see Zen making a concerted effort to keep the leaderboards as clean as they possibly can, & I hope this continues to be the case. I pity these cheats, they're beyond pathetic & I'll never understand their mindset.
            That's good news. I guess there are good reasons for Zen not wanting to discuss this in detail, too. As the developer, I'd be pretty pissed off with the shenanigans that have occurred on the leaderboards.

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            • #51
              Mutifake Matchup is not Multiplayer ?

              I would like to also point out that Zen is using fake scores. These Matchup scores are an impossible low. How to be under 1,100 on Shamen table ?

              I had to try for a score under 1,100 and i didn't find a way.

              I thought it was a multiplayer matchup. Are the players fake too?
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              • #52
                Originally posted by rollerrocker View Post
                I would like to also point out that Zen is using fake scores. These Matchup scores are an impossible low. How to be under 1,100 on Shamen table ?

                I had to try for a score under 1,100 and i didn't find a way.

                I thought it was a multiplayer matchup. Are the players fake too?
                Perhaps do a weak plunger shot, then tilt? (just a guess.) I hope Zen fix this mode, players are rewarded for keeping their scores very low, allowing unskilled participants to rake in 55 pts per game using this strategy...it urgently needs a rethink!

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                • #53
                  Hey guys! Thanks for reporting those issues. We appreciate it! I will inform our developers about it! This information is very important for us! Have a nice day!

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                  • #54
                    FYI Ardenwolfe has ruined another leaderboard (Alien vs. Predator). I'm not sure which platform Ardenwolfe is on. They are visible on Switch, but not on Switch themselves (I doubt anyone would bother to "hack" the Switch for posting pinball scores).

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                    • #55
                      I thought I’d recognized the name Kthula from PBFX2 days so I didn’t question it but when I look at all their scores, they have a flat score on every table. No coincidence would you have flat scores on every table.

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                      • #56
                        Zen have deleted a my friend's high scores on Skyrim!!! He is the best in the world and definitely a real person. His xbox name is TheHatchet18. Can anyone from Zen help?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Louise Superstar View Post
                          Zen have deleted a my friend's high scores on Skyrim!!! He is the best in the world and definitely a real person. His xbox name is TheHatchet18. Can anyone from Zen help?
                          Interesting, I thought he was real as well but Zen might know more then we do. After all they said they are taking this seriously and only removing scores they 100% know are fake.
                          Proud member of the Hyna Gang! Keeping pinball alive on the Wii U!

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                          • #58
                            This is intriguing.

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                            • #59
                              I haven’t been playing much lately but I just noticed Ardenwolfe has also destroyed The Force Awakens.

                              1 ball challenge: 798.000.000
                              5 minute challenge: 236.000.000
                              Survival: 357.000.000
                              Normal challenge: 3,436 Billion

                              All are number one ‘scores’.

                              Six weeks after turning the cheaters into a priority and Zen still haven’t managed to get rid of the three big ones. Instead, they are gaining ground.

                              How embarrassing...

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                              • #60
                                Hey Guys!

                                First of all, thanks for your patience!

                                We could see lots of statistics about the players you were complaining about: Ardenwolfe, kthula666 and !!!!!!, we were also able to see more helpful information about their gaming style and scores. Our biggest concern is that what they actually do during the game is totally normal, we couldn't find any unusual strategy, steps or tricks. The only thing which is extremely strange is their zero ended scores, what you guys also mentioned. It's fair enough to say that it is almost impossible and not realistic to have scores which always end with zeros.

                                However we haven't found their "trick" yet, how they actually do the score cheating, we are not able to officially prove it.

                                Our Lead Developer created a whole new team who will work on this case exclusively, and that's not everything: we are also planning to develop our whole "Anti-Cheat System", but it definitely takes more time to make a visible progress.

                                We would like you to know that we are absolutely aware of this cheating issue's importance. Our whole team, also my Community Manager, Ákos and myself are daily pushing the progress, and trying to get every information what we can communicate for our players' community.

                                It's not just a problem for us which we have to solve, we are seeing it as a moral issue in our community. For us it's an emotional mission.

                                I personally feel upset about it, because you guys have been supporting us for so long and we would like to have a game which can provide fair circumstances, where you are able to enjoy the competition without experiencing these kind of unfair situations.

                                So, just to make it clear for you guys: At the moment we are not able to ban these mentioned users yet, because we still want to observe their behavior. However when we find out how they have these unusual scores we will take the necessary steps, I personally will take care of this.

                                We highly appreciate your support and your passion for our game.

                                Again: thanks for your patience guys, we know how it feels waiting for so long to see any progress, and we are truly thankful for you!

                                Chili
                                Last edited by Chili; 08-01-2018, 10:19 AM.

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