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  • Chili
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    Hey Guys! Yes, we understand it, these 6 zeros are quite unbelievable, we also realized that. However we have to be very careful who we remove, we have to find a very obvious clue that he is cheating. We also understand your frustration, currently we are working on a solution. Thanks for your patience!

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  • Tech101
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    Originally posted by TuttiDeLeon View Post
    You're my hero dude. Also, Single Player Superscore is full of hacked/glitched contributions, the entire top 100 is awash with impossible scores. Please look into this Zen.
    You must be a PS4 user because as a Switch user I only see 2 scores that need to be removed.

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  • TuttiDeLeon
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    Originally posted by MuddyWolf_Beta View Post
    I mostly play the 5 minute challenges in FX3 so I’ve listed their scores on those leaderboards but they are all over the place.

    I understand that at first it might look Kthulla666’s scores might be possible but check the last 6 digits of his scores.
    I don’t think I’ve ever finished a game with the last six digits being 000.000 by accident.
    He’s the opposite, he can’t seem to finish a game without having 000.000 as the last digits

    That’s mathematically impossible of course and that’s also how you recognise this particular cheat/trainer and why I’m so sure that he’s a cheater.

    The same goes for Ardenwolfe and !!!!!

    Okay. Here we go:


    Kthula666:

    El Dorado: 159.000.000
    Excalibur: 113.000.000
    V12: 164.000.000
    Tesla: 136.000.000
    Shaman: 178.000.000
    Sor. Lair: 223.000.000
    Mars: 214.000.000
    Paranormal: 139.000.000
    Biolab: 161.000.000
    Pasha: 235.000.000
    Rome: 219.000.000
    Secrets Of The Deep: 100.000.000
    Doctor Strange: 224.000.000
    Thor: 249.000.000
    Infinity Gauntlet: 469.000.000
    Blade: 176.000.000


    Ardenwolfe:

    Wild West Rampage: 230.000.000
    CastleStorm: 317.000.000
    Excalibur: 126.000.000
    Sor. Lair: 232.000.000
    Fantastic Four: 176.000.000
    Captain America: 230.000.000
    Doctor Strange: 239.000.000
    X-Men: 160.000.000
    Thor: 218.000.000
    Ghost Rider: 223.000.000
    Moon Knight: 307.000.000
    Portal: 279.000.000
    Walking Dead: 283.000.000


    !!!!!!

    V12: 187.000.000
    Iron Man: 193.000.000
    Deadpool: 228.000.000


    !!!!!! doesn’t play many 5 minute challenges but I’ve seen him on other boards (different challenges). He’s prominent too.

    The 000.000 cheat was the first cheat/trainer for FX3. There are of course new trainers out there that are harder to recognize. If you guys really want to keep the boards clean maybe you should talk with the Lup's Club. They know the tables very well and I see them on the leaderboards of all modes/challenges so they should know what’s possible.

    There are ‘probably’ also some bugged scores. For example, on Tesla, the number one 5 minute challenge high score is 403 million. That’s an impossible score. However, I’ve never seen the name of the player on other tables and his score doesn’t end in 000.000. So he/she deserves reasonable doubt imo. You still might want to remove the score and consider it a bug though because it breaks the table for high scorers. (It will never bettered. It can’t.)

    That’s it!
    I really hope you do something with the above info because it took me quite some time to compile

    Thanks!
    You're my hero dude. Also, Single Player Superscore is full of hacked/glitched contributions, the entire top 100 is awash with impossible scores. Please look into this Zen.

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  • MuddyWolf_Beta
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    I mostly play the 5 minute challenges in FX3 so I’ve listed their scores on those leaderboards but they are all over the place.

    I understand that at first it might look Kthulla666’s scores might be possible but check the last 6 digits of his scores.
    I don’t think I’ve ever finished a game with the last six digits being 000.000 by accident.
    He’s the opposite, he can’t seem to finish a game without having 000.000 as the last digits

    That’s mathematically impossible of course and that’s also how you recognise this particular cheat/trainer and why I’m so sure that he’s a cheater.

    The same goes for Ardenwolfe and !!!!!

    Okay. Here we go:


    Kthula666:

    El Dorado: 159.000.000
    Excalibur: 113.000.000
    V12: 164.000.000
    Tesla: 136.000.000
    Shaman: 178.000.000
    Sor. Lair: 223.000.000
    Mars: 214.000.000
    Paranormal: 139.000.000
    Biolab: 161.000.000
    Pasha: 235.000.000
    Rome: 219.000.000
    Secrets Of The Deep: 100.000.000
    Doctor Strange: 224.000.000
    Thor: 249.000.000
    Infinity Gauntlet: 469.000.000
    Blade: 176.000.000


    Ardenwolfe:

    Wild West Rampage: 230.000.000
    CastleStorm: 317.000.000
    Excalibur: 126.000.000
    Sor. Lair: 232.000.000
    Fantastic Four: 176.000.000
    Captain America: 230.000.000
    Doctor Strange: 239.000.000
    X-Men: 160.000.000
    Thor: 218.000.000
    Ghost Rider: 223.000.000
    Moon Knight: 307.000.000
    Portal: 279.000.000
    Walking Dead: 283.000.000


    !!!!!!

    V12: 187.000.000
    Iron Man: 193.000.000
    Deadpool: 228.000.000


    !!!!!! doesn’t play many 5 minute challenges but I’ve seen him on other boards (different challenges). He’s prominent too.

    The 000.000 cheat was the first cheat/trainer for FX3. There are of course new trainers out there that are harder to recognize. If you guys really want to keep the boards clean maybe you should talk with the Lup's Club. They know the tables very well and I see them on the leaderboards of all modes/challenges so they should know what’s possible.

    There are ‘probably’ also some bugged scores. For example, on Tesla, the number one 5 minute challenge high score is 403 million. That’s an impossible score. However, I’ve never seen the name of the player on other tables and his score doesn’t end in 000.000. So he/she deserves reasonable doubt imo. You still might want to remove the score and consider it a bug though because it breaks the table for high scorers. (It will never bettered. It can’t.)

    That’s it!
    I really hope you do something with the above info because it took me quite some time to compile

    Thanks!

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  • Tech101
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    Originally posted by Chili View Post
    Hey MuddyWolf_Beta! My colleague checked those three users:
    1. Ardenwolfe - he didn't find him anymore, probably this users has been already removed.
    2. kthula666 - This case is interesting, because actually the scores he makes is not that impossible, and we currently cannot remove him immediately
    3. !!!!!! - my colleague didn't find him, but he will check it again

    If you can, please send us the which are the score boards where you see those unrealistic scores. It would help us a lot!

    Thanks in advance!
    Its pretty obvious kthula666 is cheating. Look at the first 3 links Gaz posted above and all 3 scores end in 6 zeros. That's impossible and he's hacking in some way to do this.

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  • Chili
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    Hey MuddyWolf_Beta! My colleague checked those three users:
    1. Ardenwolfe - he didn't find him anymore, probably this users has been already removed.
    2. kthula666 - This case is interesting, because actually the scores he makes is not that impossible, and we currently cannot remove him immediately
    3. !!!!!! - my colleague didn't find him, but he will check it again

    If you can, please send us the which are the score boards where you see those unrealistic scores. It would help us a lot!

    Thanks in advance!

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  • MuddyWolf_Beta
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    @Chili

    Thank you.
    I appreciate it.

    I hope they'll be removed soon.
    Last edited by MuddyWolf_Beta; 06-12-2018, 05:27 PM. Reason: water

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  • Chili
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    Hey! Thanks for reporting this issue, we know about it. I will ask my colleagues what's going on with this.

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  • MuddyWolf_Beta
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    Hello again,

    It’s been almost a month since I started this thread and almost four months since gaz5021 reported these 3 cheaters for the first time.

    It’s so obvious they are cheating, is there a reason you don’t want to remove their scores?
    Do the server managers have doubts and suspect our reports are fake?

    I don’t understand.
    Could you please explain what’s going on.

    Thanks!

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  • DoZ
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    Knowing that hack tools are booming and it's easy to do, the best thing for all, players and developers, would be an anti-cheating system that monitorize changes in the process executed on the client machine.

    Of course it would generate more traffic on the servers, but with a system that every minute or two would perform checks, it could prevent the damage what cheaters makes.

    Really, it's so easy that even someone stupid enough to invent a score with a round number (like 400,000,000) is able to use the right programs...

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  • TuttiDeLeon
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    Originally posted by MuddyWolf_Beta View Post
    You can divide cheaters into subspecies…

    There are the one time only cheaters. They don’t care about the game. They install it once, set a few fake scores and leave the game behind. I guess they do it because they can.

    There are the kiddies. (If there’s a free table, level, whatever in a game, you’re bound to find them there.) For them, playing the game is just as much fun as cheating the game. I guess their motive is just teenage kicks

    You can’t stop the above cheaters unless you have a VAC ban system in place. The best thing you can do as a dev is keep a close eye on the boards and do a thorough clean-up every 6 months or so.

    And then there are the likes of kthula666, Ardenwolfe and !!!!!!

    IRL, they’re the kind of guys that wear socks in their pants to impress. They just love to see their names up there. Both for themselves and for others to see. I guess it makes them feel special while it’s just sad & silly.

    However, these kind of cheaters infect the leaderboards to such a degree that players don’t bother with tables anymore because they know the top spots are unreachable anyway.

    IMO. A dev carries the responsibility towards its customer base to remove these cheaters as quickly as possible. The moment they are ‘unmasked’ basically. Which in this case, they sure are.
    Amen.

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  • MuddyWolf_Beta
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    You can divide cheaters into subspecies…

    There are the one time only cheaters. They don’t care about the game. They install it once, set a few fake scores and leave the game behind. I guess they do it because they can.

    There are the kiddies. (If there’s a free table, level, whatever in a game, you’re bound to find them there.) For them, playing the game is just as much fun as cheating the game. I guess their motive is just teenage kicks

    You can’t stop the above cheaters unless you have a VAC ban system in place. The best thing you can do as a dev is keep a close eye on the boards and do a thorough clean-up every 6 months or so.

    And then there are the likes of kthula666, Ardenwolfe and !!!!!!

    IRL, they’re the kind of guys that wear socks in their pants to impress. They just love to see their names up there. Both for themselves and for others to see. I guess it makes them feel special while it’s just sad & silly.

    However, these kind of cheaters infect the leaderboards to such a degree that players don’t bother with tables anymore because they know the top spots are unreachable anyway.

    IMO. A dev carries the responsibility towards its customer base to remove these cheaters as quickly as possible. The moment they are ‘unmasked’ basically. Which in this case, they sure are.
    Last edited by MuddyWolf_Beta; 05-21-2018, 11:09 PM. Reason: water

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  • TuttiDeLeon
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    Originally posted by DepecheM101 View Post
    I don't know what you are seeing but as far as I can see there is only the two suspect scores at the top of the regular superscore leaderboard previously mentioned and the classic superscore leaderboard looks fine. Without them two scores I would be top and my score is totally legit. I am on Xbox One.
    Ah, I'm on PS4. The top 100 is absolutely horrible, full of bogus scores. The top 100 in Classic Superscore is completely legit...for now.

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  • cantankerous--
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    Originally posted by Tech101 View Post
    I've told you how it works lol. You first need to play all the tables. If there's 75 the max score you can get is 75,000. Any score over that are not legit. If you placed in the top 5 on all tables you would be looking at around 74,900 to 74,980 or so. We cant see PS4 so I'm gping to take a wild guess that a lot of scores are coming from there. As a Switch user I only see 2 scores like DepecheM101 said that need to be removed.
    Ok, thats the reason. I only play about 7 tables religiously and many of my number 1's are on the same tables in different modes. No big. I just play for fun anyway.

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  • Tech101
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    Originally posted by cantankerous-- View Post
    I have no idea how that superscore works. I have like 5 number 1's and another 10 in the top 5 and I only have 11 thousand superscore ranked like 7400th. lol
    I've told you how it works lol. You first need to play all the tables. If there's 75 the max score you can get is 75,000. Any score over that are not legit. If you placed in the top 5 on all tables you would be looking at around 74,900 to 74,980 or so. We cant see PS4 so I'm gping to take a wild guess that a lot of scores are coming from there. As a Switch user I only see 2 scores like DepecheM101 said that need to be removed.

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