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  • #16
    Originally posted by surf1der View Post
    Why have a G rating when the Williams app serves up ads like this (I took these screenshots today)...

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    I assume these images are fine to post on the website since they are available within your app. Advertising an adult slot machine gambling game on your app is totally cool but they dare not show any cigars or beer cans. I guess the characters in these images have just enough clothes to NOT be considered "scantily-clad"?

    Who cares though when it costs $20 to buy a single table on mobile? Unless you're a kid who wants to grind challenges to slowly unlock featureless tables while being served ads like those above.
    The mobile app has a higher rating, 17+ on the app store with a long list of descriptors - precisely for the purpose of having the unaltered tables in the Williams Pinball app.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by McLovin View Post
      The mobile app has a higher rating, 17+ on the app store with a long list of descriptors - precisely for the purpose of having the unaltered tables in the Williams Pinball app.
      Still, although this addresses the discussion on the app. Why go for a g rating on consoles when the vast majority of those that play are dedicated pinball players many of which are in their 40's and 50's who grew up loving the art of the originals only to appeal to a very small minority of women buying these titles for their kids who will discard them shortly after opening them?
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      • #18
        Originally posted by McLovin View Post
        Hi tfhfony, we don't feel like doing this, it is not us who make these rules. We have to have some alterations in order to keep our ratings on consoles.
        Release a 2nd version which has another rating, but uses the same tablesets. It's not that hard, really,
        Besides that, these tables were released with the same ratings in another itteration.
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        • #19
          Sry, did not buy this pack, first Williams one I didn't. Poor choices of tables, not a one in the bunch I liked. There are way better tables, NGG, STTNG, T2, MB, BSD, SS, the list goes on and on. Hopefully whomever is picking gets off this olden times bent.

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          • #20
            Road Show Tips

            I’m slowly but surely finding my feet with Pinball FX3 on my recently bought Xbox One. I’ve been playing some tournaments (but am not a big fan because achievements and scores does not count in the long run) but my main goal I set myself is to see if I can get into the top-ten (or at least the top-twenty) leaderboards on classic arcade physics for the Williams / Bally tables. The first table I tried it on is Road Show and I finally managed a top-ten score after a few weeks of playing a bit a day (I love being able to do so on the quicker, more intense Williams / Bally tables).

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            Here is the last 5 minutes of the game as recorded with my Xbox.



            I don’t feel like I mastered the table yet, and I botched two big scoring opportunities and an extra ball in this game; I immediately lost all the balls on super payday (San Francisco - Monster Attack), I bricked a shot to start pay day multiball losing my last ball, and I could have gone for the multiplier multiball but didn't notice. I’ll definitely go for a bigger score again in future but for now I’ll move on to another table.

            Here are some tips that worked for me in this game:

            - The skill shot into the blast / wheel hole is easy to get and the score increases each time you hit it (to a max of 25M) and reward you with a souvenir (which can pay out handsomely with an end-of-ball bonus) so go for it at every opportunity.
            - Go for Red each time you can as the score also increase for big millions (to a max of 25M) each time you hit her and you also get a Cheeseburger bonus of 20M if you hit her often enough.
            - My original strategy was to go for the Payday multi-ball and not worry so much about playing the city modes, but I soon realised that playing the city modes is a much better approach for advancing your score.
            - It is difficult, but it is worth trying to advance the bonus multipliers as you can get big end-of-ball bonus scores (I got 360M at end of one ball). There is some specific mechanism at play how to advance it, but shooting up the left and right ramps in combo seems to do the trick.

            What strategy work for you when playing this table?

            Edit: Here are some tips in reply to my post on Facebook by Bob Steele:

            1) Watch Bowen's tutorial on the PAPA youtube channel and be sure to thank him if you ever get to meet him in person! The one he did on Road Show is by far the best.
            2) I pretty much never shoot for Reds mouth - the main reason is I usually miss and put the ball out of control and the second one is the magic standup - see tip one to know what I am talking about there.
            3) On the initial plunge, sometimes I don't go for the skill shot - instead I try to change my first city to Miami then start that mode. I've racked up over 100M many times ripping the spinner over and over again. The New York mode is not worth the risky shots to the dozer.
            4) After Miami, I go for the skill shot every time to get the free souvenirs - I also shoot the bunker as often as I can to get those souvenirs as well. You can activate the bunker souvenir by shooting the right loop (up between Red & Ted) which will put you in the bumpers so be ready for that feed to fly at you once in a while.
            5) I always try to advance the multiplier as the main priority - after your 2 ramp shots to advance it, be sure to get the "spin the wheel" reward before you advance to the next one. After 6x, the wheel awards go away. Sometimes I will throw in a mode start as I'm progressing the multiplier. I had a 900M+ bonus on my recent 7 billion+ game that i played the other night - that score was achieved without any multi-balls (other than the ones you get with some of the modes) so building that bonus is far more valuable than any multi-ball can be unless you are really good at hitting red over and over again.
            6) Try to stay away from the risky shots in a few of the modes (New York & Nashville are the main ones). The risk/reward of those modes aren't worthwhile. You can usually get a few accidental shots in Nashville just flipping around but I don't try to aim for it. The nice thing about Nashville is as long as you have the 2 balls going, the mode doesn't end.
            7) Never ever sell your souvenirs - they are worth much much more in bonus!
            That's about it for what I do...... good luck to all!

            and my reply...

            I did watch the excellent PAPA tutorial video and initially I started the game off as he (and yourself) suggested but eventually figured out that I can just restart if I don't score or lose the ball on the New York mode (although I'll definitely play Miami if I start that up). I find hitting Red not that risky in arcade physics mode or rather not much more risky than just letting the ball drop. I'll definitely weigh it up next time I play but for now I'm first going to play some other table.
            Last edited by Cloda; 07-24-2019, 10:08 AM. Reason: Added tips and video
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            • #21
              Life was Good... When I figured out that Crystal Flash was with UP, not DOWN... f***ing "SOS Nintendo" who never believed me and kept telling bullshit...

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              • #22
                White Water - Arcade Single Player gameplay

                I have been playing White Water for the last couple of days on arcade single player and am slowly but surely creeping up to a good score. I completed Wet Willie’s and got the Travelling Hazard Jackpot but fizzled out badly (wasting an extra ball in the process!) and did not get the Vacation Jackpot. I’ll keep going and hope that I can get that Vacation Jackpot and break into the Top 10 (14th at the moment) soon.

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                Here is a video of my game...


                I have few tips for this table other than saying that tight ball control and pinpoint accuracy is the key with arcade physics to having a decent game. I must still practice my live catches and especially drop catches as on this table they will make a huge difference.

                I’m super frustrated with the view options on this table.
                The view I used, 1, is very much a compromised view for me in that I can’t see the bottom or the top flippers as well as I would like to. I usually use view 4 but on this table it makes it very hard to aim with the top flipper and it messes up with some multiballs because it thinks you only have one ball when you shoot it up the middle ramp and then the camera jumps from the single player view and multiplayer view when the second ball is released above the right flipper. I really hope Zen gives us the option in future to adjust the camera to our liking.
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                • #23
                  White Water - Classic Arcade

                  After about 10 days of blood, sweat and tears where I played probably near 50 games I finally got the Vacation Jackpot on White Water in Classic Arcade single player. I have said it before, but man, I just love the fast, furious and intense gameplay with the Williams tables on realistic physics and the fact that I can retry multiple times a go to improve my score. I’ll give this table a rest for now but I’ll definitely be back again; something else I love about the Williams tables compared to most of the Zen original tables where I'm generally played out on a table following a marathon final game.

                  I recorded the game so I’ll post it on my YouTube channel in a few days with commentary describing the way I went about it. Here is a video from another one where I got close but fizzled out badly in the end. I just about had the perfect start...

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                  • #24
                    White Water (Classic Arcade): Vacation Jackpot! Tutorial

                    Here I post the video of me finally getting the Vacation Jackpot. This is my first time adding voice over commentary to run you through the approach I took to get there.



                    I achieved my goals for the table of getting the Vacation Jackpot, a billion plus score, and a top 10 on the leaderboards so for now it will go on the back burner but I'll definitely come back to it again.

                    Let me know if you would like me to tackle a specific table and I'll gladly consider it. Please also let me know if you would like me to focus on different or specific aspects with my voice over commentary.

                    ShoryukenToTheChin's guide for the table is available from the Zen Studios Blog and should help you if you are uncertain about what I refer to in the commentary.
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                    • #25
                      I don't want to be funny but White Water plays much harder and more unfair for me on Normal Single Player compared to Classic Arcade. If the ball don't make it all the way down Insanity fall, it goes straight down the middle unless you get lucky with nudging as it leaves the ramp. If the ball gets ejected after the Whirlpool, you have to nudge if you hold the right flipper up, else the ball disappears down the right out-lane. When the ball gets ejected from the bounce back it just about always ends up going into the entrance of No way out and often, if you don't nudge at the right time, the balls goes straight down the middle. None of these things happen in that way in Classic Arcade or if it does, not nearly as frequently. Certain shots are easier including spine chiller and boomerang bend so the promise is there if you can manage to keep the ball alive that you will be able to advance rafts much easier after the first completion.
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