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    Default Zen Pinball for Apple TV

    Zen Pinball is now available on Apple TV Play your purchased iOS tables on tvOS! More info on our blog page here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbieBobomb View Post
    Zen Pinball is now available on Apple TV Play your purchased iOS tables on tvOS! More info on our blog page here.

    Ok, but when I go to restore purchases, it doesn't recognize that I own any of the iOS tables and I own a good number of them. I tried re-buying one of them, and it actually charged me for it... that seems wrong. I bought this under the assumption that all previously purchased tables would be restorable...

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    Default Lag with Nimbus remote

    Hi, just installed on Apple TV. Games look great, but there is a lot of lag when using the Nimbus controller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexyss View Post
    Hi, just installed on Apple TV. Games look great, but there is a lot of lag when using the Nimbus controller.
    Sorry, the app doesn't support the Nimbus controller. Supported controllers are listed in the blog link above ^^^

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    Default But the Nimbus controller is a MFi Controller...

    Quote Originally Posted by BarbieBobomb View Post
    Sorry, the app doesn't support the Nimbus controller. Supported controllers are listed in the blog link above ^^^
    Hi,
    The only listing I am able to find in the blog link is for the Siri remote and MFi controllers. And the Steelseries Nimbus is the by Apple recommended MFi controller. And there is definitely a lag problem when playing Zen Pinball on Apple TV using the Nimbus...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SphyrnaMokarran View Post
    Hi,
    The only listing I am able to find in the blog link is for the Siri remote and MFi controllers. And the Steelseries Nimbus is the by Apple recommended MFi controller. And there is definitely a lag problem when playing Zen Pinball on Apple TV using the Nimbus...
    You may want to adjust your TV input settings - sometimes game modes or other input modes can cause lag. I hope that helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SphyrnaMokarran View Post
    Hi,
    The only listing I am able to find in the blog link is for the Siri remote and MFi controllers. And the Steelseries Nimbus is the by Apple recommended MFi controller. And there is definitely a lag problem when playing Zen Pinball on Apple TV using the Nimbus...
    Agreed...tried everything with TV settings etc, and the only lag is the flippers...too bad...makes it unplayable on Apple TV. The Srii remote is not usable for a pinball game. You need to be able to hit both at the same times many times. What a shame.

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    I have the Star Wars Pinball app on iOS. Bought a few tables there. Just downloaded Zen Pinball for Apple TV 4 (tvOS), and it won't restore my purchases??? This app is a fail if I have to buy them again

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    Quote Originally Posted by snork View Post
    I have the Star Wars Pinball app on iOS. Bought a few tables there. Just downloaded Zen Pinball for Apple TV 4 (tvOS), and it won't restore my purchases??? This app is a fail if I have to buy them again
    Sorry, the tables don't transfer between the ZP and standalone apps.

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    Default Flipper lag on Zen Pinball with certified SteelSeries Nimbus controller on Apple TV

    I appreciate this has already been mentioned, but do you intend to support the Apple certified SteelSeries Nimbus controller for use with Apple TV? The flipper lag is dreadful and makes the game unplayable - this is not what I expect when using Apple certified products with approved third party software.

    Using the Siri remote is not an option for playing pinball, there are times when both flippers need to be used simultaneously and this is not possible with the included remote.

    Please address this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wotnosnow View Post
    I appreciate this has already been mentioned, but do you intend to support the Apple certified SteelSeries Nimbus controller for use with Apple TV? The flipper lag is dreadful and makes the game unplayable - this is not what I expect when using Apple certified products with approved third party software.

    Using the Siri remote is not an option for playing pinball, there are times when both flippers need to be used simultaneously and this is not possible with the included remote.

    Please address this issue.
    The Nimbus isn't officially supported, though it may help with lag if you adjust your TV's input settings.

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    The tvOS version of Zen Pinball features all the same great content and huge library of tables as the iOS version along with both Siri remote and MFi controller support.
    Answers in this thread makes no sense. The Steel Series Nimbus is the Apple recommended MFi controller. You support MFi controller. Ergo you support the number one used controller with the AppleTV: The Steel Series Nimbus. Correct?

    Do you even play this game yourself before you release? Did you only play it with the Siri remote? The lag is NOT related to the TV (we know how to set it to game mode/lag free mode). The Nimbus has zero lag in all other games, this an issue with Zen Pinball. Please come back with a proper answer on how you plan to resolve this as the game is unplayable in its current state. Using the Siri remote is not an option as many have pointed out.

    For the record both my Nimbus controllers are up to date with the latest firmware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenErik View Post
    Answers in this thread makes no sense. The Steel Series Nimbus is the Apple recommended MFi controller. You support MFi controller. Ergo you support the number one used controller with the AppleTV: The Steel Series Nimbus. Correct?

    Do you even play this game yourself before you release? Did you only play it with the Siri remote? The lag is NOT related to the TV (we know how to set it to game mode/lag free mode). The Nimbus has zero lag in all other games, this an issue with Zen Pinball. Please come back with a proper answer on how you plan to resolve this as the game is unplayable in its current state. Using the Siri remote is not an option as many have pointed out.

    For the record both my Nimbus controllers are up to date with the latest firmware.
    Agreed the Nimbus is the best Apple TV Controller on the market, and the lag input is ridiculous, who ever is in charge of QC needs to be made aware of this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omar5687 View Post
    Agreed the Nimbus is the best Apple TV Controller on the market, and the lag input is ridiculous, who ever is in charge of QC needs to be made aware of this issue.
    As I mentioned in another thread, we also saw lag with the Nimbus controller during testing, but adjusting the TV input settings helped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbieBobomb View Post
    As I mentioned in another thread, we also saw lag with the Nimbus controller during testing, but adjusting the TV input settings helped.
    No you mentioned it in this thread. But I stated that signal lag is NOT the issue quite clearly. You may want to read this again:

    The lag is NOT related to the TV (we know how to set it to game mode/lag free mode). The Nimbus has zero lag in all other games, this an issue with Zen Pinball. Please come back with a proper answer on how you plan to resolve this as the game is unplayable in its current state.

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    Default If you can't or won't support the Apple TV certified MFI controller ...

    Then you shouldn't be permitted to publish games on Apple TV.

    How many more times must we state:

    THIS IS NOT A TV LAG PROBLEM
    THIS IS NOT A FIRMWARE ISSUE
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    THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT EXISTS BECAUSE YOU SEEM TO REFUSE TO SUPPORT THE APPLE CERTIFIED MFI CONTROLLER

    Please for the sake of all our sanity, PLEASE support the Apple certified SteelSeries Nimbus controller

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    Hey guys - the team has some suggestions and questions for this issue, and if anyone is willing to test this out it could be helpful to us - please try to connect to a monitor/another TV having a response time around 14ms, and see if that works. If the game does work properly on a monitor, then this means that the TV/cable has a bad response time (which adjusting the input settings should help).

    In the past we have also seen cases where the HDMI cable caused lag: if it is not good quality and it is long, it may result in this behavior. If you can, you may want to try a different (better quality/shorter) HDMI cable.

    Additional questions:
    Do you also see input lag with the Siri remote? Or is it just the Nimbus?
    Does the issue appear right from the start or does the lag “build up” over some time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbieBobomb View Post
    Hey guys - the team has some suggestions and questions for this issue, and if anyone is willing to test this out it could be helpful to us - please try to connect to a monitor/another TV having a response time around 14ms, and see if that works. If the game does work properly on a monitor, then this means that the TV/cable has a bad response time (which adjusting the input settings should help).

    In the past we have also seen cases where the HDMI cable caused lag: if it is not good quality and it is long, it may result in this behavior. If you can, you may want to try a different (better quality/shorter) HDMI cable.

    Additional questions:
    Do you also see input lag with the Siri remote? Or is it just the Nimbus?
    Does the issue appear right from the start or does the lag “build up” over some time?
    This ever get fixed? Ordered the steel series nimbus specifically for the zen app before reading about the lag issue.

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    I use the Steelseries Nimbus controller with my AppleTv and it works fine. If there is lag I do not see it. I have my AppleTV connected directly to my TV with a highspeed HDMI cable. My concern is that Not all of the games that I have purchased are on the Apple TV. Hmmm. I have on my computer and iPhone several games including Back to the Future, Jaws, Ailens, Star Wars, and a couple others. But only a few, Ailens are on the AppleTV. Why don't the other games download to AppleTV?

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    It says on your blog...............Additionally, any tables you’ve purchased on the iOS version of Zen Pinball can be played on your Apple TV, and vice versa! I have found that this is not true. I see a couple of tables that I purchased for my Mac on AppleTV but not all of them. How can I get the other ones to download?

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    Have you tried restoring your purchases on the Apple TV? Also, if you have more than one account on the Apple TV, make sure you're signed in with the proper account.

    Oh, and I'm not sure if the MAC and iOS versions are cross-compatible. I think they're two separate products. iOS definitely goes between iPhone, iPad and Apple TV.
    Last edited by GordLacey; 04-18-2018 at 08:32 AM.

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