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    Default Removed the option to buy Zen pinball 2 tables on ps4

    Why?

    I needed only 4 more tables to completed it.
    Because Zen decided to stop supporting stereoscopic 3D I wanted to stick with Zen pinball 2.

    I can understand the reason to drop 3d cause its probably not used often by many people but removing the option to buy tables on Zp2 is not good.

    You cant expect all the users to jump to pinball fx3 if you cut out certain options that were in previous versions.

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    You can still get them, you just need to buy them for ps3 or vita. They're crossbuy so they'll show up in your ps4 downloads as well.

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    Which tables are you missing? Can you buy them from in-game or does it redirect you to over-expensive multi-table collections that include tables you've already got.


    Of course, if you're complaining that Zen Pinball 2 won't be getting any of the new Pinball FX3 tables, I think Zen Studios have decisively drawn the line under the old game now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dok5555555 View Post
    You can still get them, you just need to buy them for ps3 or vita. They're crossbuy so they'll show up in your ps4 downloads as well.

    Eh thx.
    Will check if it works
    Last edited by chivato; 10-09-2017 at 05:26 PM.

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    Update:

    Bought the pack i needed on the vita.
    Tried to import it on the ps4 for Zen pinball 2 and it doesnt work. No tables found to import.

    Opened up Pinball FX 3 and could import the tables there just fine.
    So i wasted money
    Thx Zen

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    Quote Originally Posted by chivato View Post
    Update:

    Bought the pack i needed on the vita.
    Tried to import it on the ps4 for Zen pinball 2 and it doesnt work. No tables found to import.

    Opened up Pinball FX 3 and could import the tables there just fine.
    So i wasted money
    Thx Zen
    Did you look under your download list on PS4, you shoudn't have to import from vita to ps4, you'll just recieve a seperate download for it. If not I'd contact zen support, it's definitly crossbuy, says so right on the page store for any table: "Purchasing this content entitles you to the PS3™ system, PS4™ system, and “PS Vita” system versions!" Also, I've always got all three versions when I've bought a table.

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    Yes I loooked in the list and downloaded it again but it just wont unlock.
    Its the vengeance table pack with ghost rider in it.

    can play it on the vita and in pfx3 but not in zp2.
    They deleted the tables from the store aswell.

    I know cause i bought excalibur yesterday and that worked just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chivato View Post
    Yes I loooked in the list and downloaded it again but it just wont unlock.
    Its the vengeance table pack with ghost rider in it.

    can play it on the vita and in pfx3 but not in zp2.
    They deleted the tables from the store aswell.

    I know cause i bought excalibur yesterday and that worked just fine.
    Very odd. I'd definitly email zen support about it. The only other thing I can think of is that maybe you downloaded the table but not the license part, or maybe the wrong platform license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dok5555555 View Post
    Very odd. I'd definitly email zen support about it. The only other thing I can think of is that maybe you downloaded the table but not the license part, or maybe the wrong platform license.

    Ye its really weird.

    Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.
    It was a good idea but it really shows that they dropped their support for ZP2.

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    What happens in ZP2 if you play the demo version of Ghost Rider?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuietlyWrong View Post
    What happens in ZP2 if you play the demo version of Ghost Rider?
    Then you can just play the demo for a couple minutes.

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    Hey Chivato,

    I guess you tried pushing the square button in Zen Pinball 2 to see if they download, or pressing on the icons?

    You could also try pressing on: You could try going to (Settings) > [PlayStation Network/Account Management] > [Restore Licenses] as well. And then trying the first method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McLovin View Post
    Hey Chivato,

    I guess you tried pushing the square button in Zen Pinball 2 to see if they download, or pressing on the icons?

    You could also try pressing on: You could try going to (Settings) > [PlayStation Network/Account Management] > [Restore Licenses] as well. And then trying the first method.
    Yep tried this but it doesnt work either

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    Quote Originally Posted by chivato View Post
    Yep tried this but it doesnt work either
    I would suggest going to the store and redownloading the demo version of the Vengeance and Virtue pack for PS4 to see if it updates your licence. But it's not publically available on my store for Zen Pinball 2, only PFX3. :|

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuietlyWrong View Post
    I would suggest going to the store and redownloading the demo version of the Vengeance and Virtue pack for PS4 to see if it updates your licence. But it's not publically available on my store for Zen Pinball 2, only PFX3. :|
    Ye they pulled everything from the store.
    Dont get any replies from Zen support.
    Last edited by chivato; 10-11-2017 at 12:04 PM.

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    Yeah - this was because it resolved my issue with Ant-Man on PFX3, downloading the demo tables again reinstalled the licence, which suggests that the store packages were updated between my original download and the most recent one.

    If you're keen to play Ghost RIder on ZP2 as opposed to PFX3, you could try logging a ticket with PS Support. Zen might be quicker through their channels though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chivato View Post
    Ye they pulled everything from the store.
    Dont get any replies from Zen support.
    Yep, as you said. I bought a few more tables too on PS3, so i'll have them on Vita. I tried the import in ZP2 and there is just no content to import anymore, no demos, nothing in the store. Import just works in PFX3.

    Gone features like 3D (even if i don't own a 3D-TV) and the good old individual pinball-style highscore entry will sadly be missed until Zen decides to put them back in.

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    We haven't changed anything in the PS4 ZP2 version of the game, and the items still exist to be able to play them, or re-download them from your game library in the future, so the PS3/Vita -> to PS4 should work.

    I'll ask around what can cause this.

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    Default PlayStation Store woes

    If I might make an observation about the cumbersome PlayStation Store...

    I would beg any developer to NEVER consider the 'Go to your download list and find your previous purchases' option to be anything but a last-ditch desperate solution.

    Here are the problems with the download list:

    It can get very, very long - I have over 3000 items in mine
    It can be viewed 24 items to a page, one page at a time
    It cannot be searched
    It cannot be filtered
    It cannot be sorted
    It rearranges itself whenever you renew a PlayStation Plus subscription


    As such, in its current form, it can be an absolute nightmare to deal with. The gods know the PS community have been complaining about it for about a decade.
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    I had this same problem last night and after a bunch of futzing around I fixed. I wanted to play DOOM in 3D so I went back into Zen Pinball 2 and it wouldn't let me download it ... even though I'd purchased it for FX3. Fine... so I'll waste another $10.99 to buy it again, which is SUPER frustrating. I feel like the release of FX3 was a slap in the face to some of their most dedicated fans. I've been playing since Zen Pinball 1 and FX 1. I bought a 3D TV just to play 3D pinball. So, you can imagine my frustration when they inexplicably remove 3D from FX3. So, now they remove the ability to buy the tables from Zen Pinball 2 and make us jump through hoops to buy any new tables on it. I'm sticking with FX2 until FX3 has 3D, which may be never.

    So, I bought the Bethesda pack from the PS Store on the web and go back to Zen Pinball 2 and it still won't unlock. I deleted and completely re-installed Zen 2 and it sill wouldn't unlock my new tables. Then, I finally when and restored licenses from settings and they showed up.

    I realize there might not be a strong business case for 3D in FX 3 but there is a strong case for not taking away features from longtime fans of the serious. I put hundreds and hundreds of hours into playing these tables. I've spent a lot of money on tables. This may seem minor to some but as a huge longtime fan of Zen and pinball the removal of 3D is a monumental disappointment to me and leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

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