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    Question Why no XBOX one X 4k support?

    Seems like a massive oversight. This game would really benefit from the 4k textures. I play in the full table view, and it's actually quite difficult to identify what some of the lights say.

    Are there any plans to add 4k support? If so, when? Soon hopefully, the One X has been around for a few months now.

    If not, then are you crazy?

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    There was a time,when people called for HD over standard,and now with HD,there's calls for 4K...
    Is it really that unclear to see?

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    I'm still using my old Xbox one to play with but i will buy an Xbox one X instantly if this game gets a proper 4k upgrade with textures and such. If not I might go the PC route. Will there be 4k support for the X?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveValek View Post
    There was a time,when people called for HD over standard,and now with HD,there's calls for 4K...
    Is it really that unclear to see?
    It is for me yes. I guess it depends on your setup.

    I use a 27" 4k monitor, and my preferred table view is the one that shows the whole table from a more birds eye perspective. This ultimately makes some of the table decals difficult to see.

    But of course people want better, and like all the standards before - once you've gone to 4k it's difficult to go back. In this day and age, typically, game assets are created at the very highest resolution and downscaled to what's required. So (While I'm sure there's more to it, I'm not an expert.) surely they can just resample the textures for 4k.

    4k games look incredible and this game would be no exception....

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    I completely agree. On my 43" the game looks gorgeous on Steam at 4K, got the One X after I asked if 4K play would be possible and got a positive answer, and now I'm waiting... Forza Horizon 3 4K ("enhanced") is now available on the X, I can tell you it has nothing to do with 1K version...

    The question has already been asked though, apparently Zen have been busy with other stuff but somehow promised they would eventually do something about it - when they will remains unknown to this day, though.

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    I hope you guys get your wish,as it's a lot of money to fork out and not get the quality..
    I had trouble seeing the lights too,but was prescribed glasses,at a fraction of the price 🤗

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    Hey guys,
    I can assure you this feature is planned and we are working on it, but it takes a lot of time to create this, because we have to re-create every table one-by-one not just a convert because it'd look terrible. We have to make them, test them, on all platforms, it's a lot of time and that's the reason we cannot tell you an exact release date right now.

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    I've been playing the XBOX ONE X version on a 4K OLED screen and it looks amazing as it is right now, even the old tables. I can't even begin to imagine how tables will look with 4K resolution because right now everything looks so clear and clean. Wow its nice to hear they're working on it for the future.

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    I don't suppose this would include HDR support? That would totally be the most worthwhile enhancement for a game such as this...

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    UP. So can you guys tell us about how much 4K support has been progressing during those last 7 months ?

    Thanks.

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    Hey Vincent! We don't have any new information about that, we will inform you guys if we will have any update on this! Have a great day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili View Post
    Hey Vincent! We don't have any new information about that, we will inform you guys if we will have any update on this! Have a great day!
    On the Steam PC version 4K resolution has been available for years hasn't it ?

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    Come on guys back me up on this !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    Come on guys back me up on this !
    Yeah, 4K Xbox One X support would be great. If it can't be all done at once...why not at least have the new tables in 4K as they are released?

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    So what is the status of this? 4k assets already exist, but it is mysteriously absent on the most powerful console specifically tailored for 4k?

    There's a reason I bought an Xbox one X, and there's a reason I want to play certain Games on my OLED.

    I'm saddened to hear that it seems neither ZenStudios nor FarSight before them seems to take the brands they've been given seriously.

    I was saddened when all my great tables I've already bought from FarSight are no longer supported, and will never get proper 4k support, and even less thrilled that ZenStudios have taken the baton, and instead of running with it promptly buried it in the sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomyak View Post
    So what is the status of this? 4k assets already exist, but it is mysteriously absent on the most powerful console specifically tailored for 4k?

    There's a reason I bought an Xbox one X, and there's a reason I want to play certain Games on my OLED.

    I'm saddened to hear that it seems neither ZenStudios nor FarSight before them seems to take the brands they've been given seriously.

    I was saddened when all my great tables I've already bought from FarSight are no longer supported, and will never get proper 4k support, and even less thrilled that ZenStudios have taken the baton, and instead of running with it promptly buried it in the sand.

    RIP
    Whilst I can't speak for Zen I think they'd agree it's not that straightforward. Although the engine is capable and those PC assets exist it's not easy to inject those into the current files and infrastructure. Here's just a shortlist of considerations:

    - Engine performance, asset re-compression and internal quality control
    - Repackaging every table file (pxp), combined assets with platform flags or entirely separate? Both approaches have drawbacks.
    - Re-submitting content to Microsoft (and possibly licence holders)
    - Post-release support and maintenance of an additional platform (bug fixes etc.)

    Each one is a time consuming & costly exercise, plus there's a new generation of consoles on the horizon to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomyak View Post
    So what is the status of this? 4k assets already exist, but it is mysteriously absent on the most powerful console specifically tailored for 4k?

    There's a reason I bought an Xbox one X, and there's a reason I want to play certain Games on my OLED.

    I'm saddened to hear that it seems neither ZenStudios nor FarSight before them seems to take the brands they've been given seriously.

    I was saddened when all my great tables I've already bought from FarSight are no longer supported, and will never get proper 4k support, and even less thrilled that ZenStudios have taken the baton, and instead of running with it promptly buried it in the sand.

    RIP
    I’m big on the notion of “to each their own,” so as someone who seems to weigh having the absolute best graphics setting possible as much more important than gameplay I can see why you’d be upset. That said, I would easily bet that the vast majority of pinball fans think gameplay is by far more important than being able to max out the resolution/HDR capability, etc., and if you’ve played the Zen versions of tables that were also on TPA I’d think it would be clear that Zen is taking the license seriously and not buried it in the sand as you said.
    I just got my new 4K OLED set, upgrading from 1080p, and, like you probably do, I wish all the games I play had enhanced versions for Xbox X. But it seems irrational to me to correlate a game not having 4K/HDR support with a developer not taking their game/license seriously. Like I said, I get the reason you’re upset, I just don’t understand the leap in logic that that’s caused.
    One quick recommendation for you, stay far away from the VR version of Zen’s game. While I’d normally recommend it to anyone who enjoys pinball for the VR’s capability to recreate tables in a 3D environment where you can actually clearly differentiate the different levels of the play field, I think you’d absolutely hate it because in order to achieve that, and with hardware limitations, the graphical fidelity had to take a hit. For those more interested in recreating the feel of playing real pinball though, it’s hard to beat.

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    The same goes for the PS4 Pro version. When will we ever get to see 4K on that machine?
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