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    I have been reading that the newly released Williams tables are censored. Is this true? And is there an option in-game to deactivate the censorship?

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    Pinball is such a game that I have grown up with. This game used to be there in the desktop and I used to play all around the day. Now when I again heard about this game I would like to ask Apple Support that if I could downlaod the game in my iPhone and play it again.

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    That is the elephant in the room.As far as i know they are censored across all platforms except PC(for PC there is an option provided to turn family mode/censorship off).
    I play via PS4 and find this unacceptable and it really ruins, for example, Medievial Madness for me.I am glad that i do have all the TPA tables as an uncut alternative.The problem i see in the future is that Zen only sells their tables in packs not singles.I certainly want to boycott the censored tables but it will be a dilemma because of the other tables i'd be missing out on.But ultimately boycotting the censored tables is the only recourse to get the point across that i do not accept nor support censored tables.

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    Pinball FX 3 as a platform is rated E which is why they have to do that, so I do understand, although I wish we could have all the original audio.

    Does anyone know what lines have been removed? Or are they beeped? I haven't played enough to notice yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PainkillerJTL View Post

    Does anyone know what lines have been removed? Or are they beeped? I haven't played enough to notice yet.
    On Medievial Madness i'm not sure about the lines yet but for example on the Dragon Ramp the DMD is literally censored.The Dot Matrix Display of the Knight getting torched by the Dragon has a big CENSORED over it.That is a complete no go for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PainkillerJTL View Post
    Pinball FX 3 as a platform is rated E
    For us Europeans (except Germany) with PEGI this doesn't matter as it's rated for ages 12 and up which is comparable to T on ESRB

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALH2012 View Post
    That is the elephant in the room.As far as i know they are censored across all platforms except PC(for PC there is an option provided to turn family mode/censorship off).
    Really? Where can we find that option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M!chel View Post
    Really? Where can we find that option?
    I don't have it on PC but as said i read that PC is the only platform where the family mode/censorship can be turned off.Maybe one of the PC players can clarify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALH2012 View Post
    I don't have it on PC but as said i read that PC is the only platform where the family mode/censorship can be turned off.Maybe one of the PC players can clarify.
    Proof or you are lying! Seriously, anybody know if this is actually the case, because I haven't found anything that allows for uncensored features on the pc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teamski View Post
    Proof or you are lying! Seriously, anybody know if this is actually the case, because I haven't found anything that allows for uncensored features on the pc.

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    Family mode is turned off by default in the PC version. There is an option to turn it on in the menus. On everything else it's permanently enabled.

    This is a setting in the ROM itself, so affects the DMD animations and audio call outs rather than the art work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klopek View Post
    Family mode is turned off by default in the PC version. There is an option to turn it on in the menus.
    I've been looking for these options, but could not find them.
    Could you, or anyone, tell me where to find these options?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M!chel View Post
    I've been looking for these options, but could not find them.
    Could you, or anyone, tell me where to find these options?
    For whatever reason they put it within the UI/Streaming section of the options menu. Scroll all the way down to the bottom.

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    Cool! That solves that! Thanks for the intel! I wish I could give you a thumbs up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by teamski View Post
    Cool! That solves that! Thanks for the intel! I wish I could give you a thumbs up!

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    Good to know about the PC version having the option; thanks.

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    Found this list on Steam of some of the censored artwork and voice overs:

    https://steamcommunity.com/app/44212...998942/?ctp=18

    All Tables:
    -- pop bumpers miss bottom parts (on which ball is roll to trigger upper sliding part)
    here is link to how bumpers should look on High Speed 2: Getaway for example :

    YouTube™ Video: The Getaway HS2 pinball repair: pop bumpers
    Views: 751
    Slow motion video of pop bumper action. Shows wafer movement and rod and ring assembly action.


    Fish Tales:
    -- added bubbles near pelican's pipe on sides art of cabinet
    -- edited text on 2 cans on backglass
    -- pipe removed from mouth of character near top rollovers
    -- cigar removed from mouth of fisherman at center of playfield art
    -- art on sides of table head: mermaids belly is covered with scales instead of be regular human skin

    Medieval Madness:
    -- on backglass cigar is removed from Troll's mouth
    -- on backglass blood is removed from King's sword
    -- on backglass blood is removed from sword in "Medieval Madness" (letter "i") text logo
    -- on backglass girl's outfit in left lower corner is edited "from bikini to full armor"
    -- on sides of cabinet blood is removed from sword
    -- during Video mode on DMD text "child" and "calf" changed to "taken" [did not cheked yet]
    -- "VO's using the version free from pertinent content of the "I'm Lord Howard Hurtz" line"

    Junk Yard:
    -- on backglass cigar is removed from Bob's mouth
    -- on playfield cigar is removed from Bob's mouth
    -- on back inside of cabinet cigar is removed from Bob's mouth
    -- on backglass upper part of girl's in thub chest art is covered with more bubbles
    -- some voices/sounds during Toilet shots in Family mode [need to check which ones]
    -- plunger rod and textures of cabinet around it are invisible, so you can even see floor through the hole

    Would it be so bad to update Pinball FX 3's rating to a T? I have no issues with my kids playing these tables as is. I'm more afraid of what their friends can find on the internet and show them on their phones than a woman in a metal binkini on a pinball table.

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    This censorship really sucks and puts a damper on things and future tables to come.Last i read Zen was looking into a solution.That better not be code for stalling because they don't plan on having a solution.The only proper solution is uncensored tables for everyone.
    Make it happen.

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    I guess the Playboy table is not going to happen

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    My kids play the game and I have no nostalgia with any of these games so I'm cool with the censorship on console. However, I think the option to turn censorship OFF should be there for non-child accounts. Censoring an artist's vision should be a personal choice and not a limitation of the platform. Thankfully, I'm cool either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M!chel View Post
    I guess the Playboy table is not going to happen
    No way.Not in the current situation.Really is unacceptable.And Playboy is a whole other issue because it is a licensed table.Waits to be seen whether Zen will be able to do Terminator(maybe that is too violent for Zen, as well), Star Trek and whatnot.

    Just came across a video on the tube which talks about the censorship problem : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxlkOHX-6yk

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    I really would like or recommend to give such an option! (decensor/unlock true arts!)

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    Default Censored!

    I am somewhat late to the party but i only just recently go around to actually playing these tables yesterday on the XBX, and to say i was surprised when the word censored appeared on the DMD in MM would be a understantment, now it is not the end of the word, and i personally have these tables on Steam via PBA and FX3, and on the PS4 again via PBA....but the option to switch the child lock off on the console versions would i think please everyone, parents can leave it on the default and grown up's can chose to view the horror's of a fantasy digitised dragon breathing fire at a digitalised knight, and somehow continue with life. lol

    So come on Zen, you know it is the best option, and when you win the love of all the pinball enthusiasts you got that love forever, and that includes their wallet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Omega M4n View Post
    So come on Zen, you know it is the best option, and when you win the love of all the pinball enthusiasts you got that love forever, and that includes their wallet.
    Unfortunately, it's up to the ESRB. Zen was in hot water with them, because of an inappropriate image was found in Infinite Minigolf in 2017. If they mess up again, then ESRB will most likely discontinue rating their content. By policy Sony, MS, and Nintendo will refuse their content if it isn't ESRB rated.

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    ^^^Well just have it censored for all American gamers, and let us UK/EU enjoy the full horrors of the uncensored versions, we can take it.
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