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    I set myself a personal goal of getting over 100m on every table and I Finally Did It!. I am no Pinball Savant but I am decent. I am happy if I break top 200 overall on any table. So, breaking it down (I guess it is more of a how balanced is the scoring thread?) Wizard Reached = * Wizard Beaten = ** All Achievements Acquired = AAA

    1. Pasha - (126m) Done, 100m would be top 920 ** AAA
    2. Blade - (143m) Done, need to be in top 180. *
    3. Excalibur - (119m) - Done, Top 200 Needed. AAA
    4. Bio Lab - (130m) - Done. Top 750 score range. *
    5. Rome - (219m) -Done. 100m would be top 450.
    6. Wolverine - (235m) Done, Top 600 score needed. ** AAA
    7. Spider-man - (2.61B) Done, Top 3800 score needed. (Note- 1 Billion puts you roughly in the top 100) ** AAA
    8. Nightmare Mansion (422m) - Done, Top 315 needed. ** AAA
    9. Earth Defense -(178m) Done, Top 760 needed. AAA
    10. Secrets of the Deep - (267m) Done, Top 750 needed. AAA
    11. Ironman - (127m) Done, Top 40 overall score. *
    12. Buccaneer - (154m) Done, Top 30 score needed. ** AAA
    13. Street Fighter II Turbo (144m) -Done. Top 275 score needed. AAA
    14. Agents - (107m) Done, Top 129 Score needed. ** AAA
    15. Speed Machine - (104m) Done, Top 70 score needed. ** AAA
    16. Extreme - (102m) Done, Top 22 score needed and a desire to play this table. ** (Extreme has NO Wizard Mode) AAA
    17. Rocky & Bullwinkle (157m) - Done, Top 110 score needed * AAA
    18. Mars - (711m) Done, Top 3,200 score needed. ** AAA
    19. Fantastic Four (2.3b) - Done, Top 1500 score needed. ** AAA
    20. Captain America (306m) - Done, Top 570 score needed. ** AAA
    21. Ms. Splosion Man (413m) - Done, Top 9000 needed ** AAA
    22. Sorcerer's Lair (383m) Done, Too 3200 needed ** AAA
    23. Paranormal (173m) Done, Top 410 needed AAA
    24. Epic Quest (3.28b), Done, Top 4000 needed ** AAA
    25. X-men (115m), Done, Top 2600 Needed A
    26. Moon Knight (486m) Top 2000 Needed ** AAA
    28. Ghost Rider (236m) Top 2000 Needed * AA
    29. Thor (151m) Top 2000 Needed * AA
    30. World War Hulk (392m) Top 190 Needed ** AAA
    31. Infinity Gauntlet (137m) Top 120 Needed * AAA
    32. Avengers (131m) Top 410 Needed
    33. Fear Itself (154m) Top 700 Needed
    34. Plants Vs. Zombies (544m) Top 4500 Needed ** AAA
    35. Civil War (547m) Top ??? Needed

    Hardest to reach 100m = Extreme (Followed closely by Speed Machine and Buccaneer, showing the score adjustments on these were a bit too tight)
    Easiest - Spiderman

    Also worth noting is that both Secrets and Biolab have much better scores logged due to the Tourney. Note that Zen- People play them much more for a tourney.

    Edit - Threw in some scores
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    I want to accomplish this as well... Just need to finish up a few of the classic tables. Extreme is going to be the most painful. I can hit shots on that one but still can't manage to break 20 mil on it. It is by far the lowest scoring table. I assume if I knew the rule set a little better and did missions and competitions my score would rise.

    I have a good grasp of the rules on all the new tables and a few of the classics. Ones I don't have completely figured out yet are Extreme, Agents, Speed Machine, Excalibur, Nightmare Mansion, and Buccaneer.

    I would say definitely doable... with a killer game on Extreme.

    I wouldn't worry about breaking 100 mil on Blade, once you get the missions down and get to the wizard mode you can easily earn 250+ million during it. Iron Man is another tough one although I have already gotten 136 mil or something like that. Good enough for 11th on the LB. During that game I got to Ultimo twice and failed miserably both times, but still put up an awesome score doing missions. That was without any extra balls because it was played before the friendly bumper update. Might try to improve on it now that the bumpers are a little more bumpy
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    I dunno if aiming for 100m is the right way to go, but maybe shooting for top 100 would be a better idea.

    I have 5 tables over 100m

    193m Secrets of the Deep
    102m Bioloab
    820m Pasha
    400m Wolverine
    239m Spider-Man

    My worst score is on Extreme which is still under 10m. My next closest to 100m is Blade on 85m so I may get that one next. I'm also aiming to get 1bn+ on Pasha which I'm confident I can do.

    The tables I think I should get over 100m on with a little effort on are Rocky & Bullwinkle, Earth Defense, Excalibur, Street Fighter II, Iron Man and Rome. The others, Speed Machine, Extreme, Agents, Buccaneer and Nightmare Mansion may be a struggle.

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    Hey, that is my first goal as well, but only for the tables that I feel is worth playing. Will also be using Rapiers key: Wizard Reached = * Wizard Beaten = ** All Achievements Acquired = AAA


    Wolverine - Done ** AAA
    Spiderman - Done ** AAA
    Blade - Done ** AAA
    Biolab - Done ** AAA
    Secrets of the Deep - Done ** AAA
    Pasha - Done ** AAA
    Rome - Done ** AAA
    Earth Defence - Done AAA
    Excalibur - Done AAA
    Mars - Done ** AAA
    Fantastic 4 - Done ** AAA
    Captain America - Done ** AAA
    Ironman - Finally DONE!!!!!!! ** AAA. My original score that I was stuck on was 99 850 000!!!! - I kid you not. With that game I celebrated too soon and in a moment of premature e... jubilation the ball happened to slip through the flippers.... it took me almost 5 months to finally better it.
    Street Fighter II - Done * AAA
    Nightmare Mansion - Done ** AAA
    Ms. Splosion Man - Done ** AAA

    The table that took the most effort for me to get to 100 million (apart from evil Ironman!!!) was Rome, it was also the first one where I was able to rise to the occasion and I believe that all the effort put into it made me a much better player (but I will never be as good as I would like to be e.g. Blue).
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    how do you check the global leaderboards? ie how do you know you are in the top 800?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloda View Post

    The table that took the most effort for me to get to 100 million (appart from evil Ironman!!!) was Rome, it was also the first one where I was able to rise to the occasion and I believe that all the effort put into it made me a much better player.
    One of my mates got a score of 520M on this table and he was only playing for 6-7mins. Something to do with multipliers, or being blessed, and completing Romulus mulitball (Only once though). How did he get that score? Glitch or luck or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilingsaint View Post
    how do you check the global leaderboards? ie how do you know you are in the top 800?
    Pick a table, choose leaderboards (You must be connected to Xbox Live to get the global leaderboards). You can use the LB/RB to scroll through all-time and weekly leaderboards for that table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flynn74 View Post
    One of my mates got a score of 520M on this table and he was only playing for 6-7mins. Something to do with multipliers, or being blessed, and completing Romulus mulitball (Only once though). How did he get that score? Glitch or luck or what?

    Sure he wasn't just finishing a game he had saved? Even with romulus this seems pretty close to impossible. The EOB's arent that big in Rome. The only other MB (other then Wizard mode) takes awhile to start...

    Also I think this goal is possible for all the Fx2 tables for sure. Iron man and excalubar would be the toughest. Blade isnt so bad once you get the hang of it, the EOB's are sickness (check out H.S's guide). I think I have 140-170M on that table, no wizard mode yet (oh so close though!). As for FX1 the scores are nerfed, bigtime. Agents isnt so bad but seriously just try to break top 300 or something, on fx1 I had 200M + on bucceneer and 500M+ on Speed machine, I don't play them anymore but the few times I did I couldnt break 50M. Go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    I set myself a personal goal of getting over 100m on every table and I am deciding if it is doable. I am no Pinball Savant but I am decent. I am happy if I break top 200 overall on any table. So, breaking it down (I guess it is more of a how balanced is the scoring thread?)

    1. Pasha - Done, 100m would be top 800
    2. Blade - Going to be hard, need to be in top 150 overall.
    3. Excalibur - Need to be in the top 150 but doable with repeat missions granting up to 20m (Joust-Intermediate)
    4. Bio Lab - Very Doable, I have not touched this since the tourney and I sit at 91m. Top 750 score range.
    5. Rome - Doable, Big payoffs for missions, 100m would be top 425.
    6. Wolverine - Done, Top 500 score needed.
    7. Spider-man - Done, Top 3500 score needed.
    8. Nightmare Mansion - Done, Top 300 needed.
    9. Earth Defense - Done, Top 500 needed.
    10. Secrets of the Deep - Doable, Top 750 needed.
    11. Ironman - requires a top 40 overall score. Should be possible if you reach and even lose to Ultimo twice. Hard.
    12. Buccaneer - Done, Top 25(!) score needed.
    13. Street Fighter II Turbo - Hard freaking table, need to do the fights to accomplish this. Top 250 score needed. So, doable if I can make myself play this table right.
    14. Agents - Doable, Top 125 Score needed.
    15. Speed Machine - Very Hard, Top 50 score needed. I reached wizard twice and still only got 50m.
    16. Extreme - Yea, right. Top 15 score needed and a desire to play this table.
    17. Rocky & Bullwinkle - Doable, Top 65 score needed but that is a bit off do to the recent reset.

    Note to Zen - Don't touch Spiderman, no matter that this little breakdown shows, I like the way it is now.
    Hardest to reach 100m = Extreme (Followed closely by Speed Machine and Buccaneer, showing the score adjustments on these were a bit too tight)
    Easiest - Spiderman

    Edit- Also worth noting is that both Secrets and Biolab have much better scores logged due to the Tourney. Note that Zen- People play them much more for a tourney.
    Definitely doable. :-p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logic_FTW View Post
    Sure he wasn't just finishing a game he had saved? Even with romulus this seems pretty close to impossible. The EOB's arent that big in Rome. The only other MB (other then Wizard mode) takes awhile to start...

    Also I think this goal is possible for all the Fx2 tables for sure. Iron man and excalubar would be the toughest. Blade isnt so bad once you get the hang of it, the EOB's are sickness (check out H.S's guide). I think I have 140-170M on that table, no wizard mode yet (oh so close though!). As for FX1 the scores are nerfed, bigtime. Agents isnt so bad but seriously just try to break top 300 or something, on fx1 I had 200M + on bucceneer and 500M+ on Speed machine, I don't play them anymore but the few times I did I couldnt break 50M. Go figure.

    I'm nowhere near as good as some of you guys, but I have to say, reading your bolded statement, makes me feel good about posting 114M today. It's #2 for the week and #124 overall. Was a helluva round. Took down the castle with the crossbow, did the damsel in distress video mode twice, took down the Sir Kay, King Arthur, and Sir Lancelot tales, completed the beginner and intermediate Jousts, completed Questing the Beast twice. Amazing note... I had 36M after 2 balls, and never did achieve an extra one. I should have gotten a lot higher. I had the extra ball lit, and had the battering ram on the doorstep of the castle when I accidentally tilted doing an excessive number of flipper passes.

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    Thumbs up its doable and would be super impressive

    wow i was just telling a friend of mine that 100 million on ANY table is incredible. the benchmark of a spectacular score. of course there are a few exceptions(cough-Spiderman.) but 100 million on EVERY table is quite a commendable goal and would be an achievement to proudly hang your favorite(Wizard) hat on... good luck!

    Ironman & Rome would give you the most... pause, if u will, i would think. then again there's ALL of those pesky original tables(Extreme.) wow good luck. LOTS of luck haha...
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    And for the record, I can't wait until you have 100M on every table except Extreme. Just knowing you'd have to put serious time into that POS would make me smile for weeks.

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    BTW, how do the top ot leaderboards look like on the FX2 version of the Marvel tables? Curious to see how they compare to our PS3 ones...

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    Quote Originally Posted by steviej View Post
    BTW, how do the top ot leaderboards look like on the FX2 version of the Marvel tables? Curious to see how they compare to our PS3 ones...
    A few freakish scores at the top (60 Billion, 57 Billion) then it drops to a more 'reasonable' scores from 15 billion and the top 10 is rounded out by none other than our own Heathensauce with 4.3 billion.

    Edit - That was just the scores for Spiderman, I misread the post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anodyne View Post
    wow i was just telling a friend of mine that 100 million on ANY table is incredible. the benchmark of a spectacular score. of course there are a few exceptions(cough-Spiderman.) but 100 million on EVERY table is quite a commendable goal and would be an achievement to proudly hang your favorite(Wizard) hat on... good luck!

    Ironman & Rome would give you the most... pause, if u will, i would think. then again there's ALL of those pesky original tables(Extreme.) wow good luck. LOTS of luck haha...
    Umm I guess it depends on your friend list, 100M is Par on all the fx2 tables, like to be in the top 5 w/ my list. If I dont break 100M I feel like I did bad (baring iron man and excalubar) Although my iron man score is 4rth I think at 50M+.

    UranusisBroken - Nice job, I think I've completed just about every mission on that table but never in one game. TBH I dont play it that much anymore, but I remember draining alot off of the Arthur mission from near misses on those combo shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logic_FTW View Post
    UranusisBroken - Nice job, I think I've completed just about every mission on that table but never in one game. TBH I dont play it that much anymore, but I remember draining alot off of the Arthur mission from near misses on those combo shots.
    Thank you. The King Arthur tale is tough...but not nearly as tough as the Sir Percival one. I've never ever completed that. The Sir Kay one's even tougher because it's a fine line between hitting the Excalibur "ramp" and the diverter switch needed to go the proper direction. It's a shame you don't play it that much anymore, it's a beautifully done table.

    Truthfully, between the sights, sound, and variety of mini-games and game modes, I think it's the most well rounded table. I absolutely love it. That and Biolab are my favorite tables.

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    Getting 100 million on every table has also been a goal of mine. There are a few tables I should be better at (Secrets of the Deep & Speed Machine). Here is my list - only 3 to go...

    344 m - Wolverine
    2,511 m - Spiderman
    121m - Iron Man
    113m - Blade
    85m - Secrets of the Deep
    277m - Biolab
    126m - Pasha
    156m - Rome
    68m - Speed Machine
    24m - Extreme
    120m - Agents
    101m - Buccaneer
    321m - Nightmare Mansion
    178m - Rocky & Bullwinkle
    209m - Street Fighter II
    129m - Earth Defense
    103m - Excalibur

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    It may be me, but I think it is easier to score on Extreme since the update.

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    Spent some time with excalubar last night (3 games) made 96.7M. I think
    100M is totaly doable, I just haven't played it enough. The extra ball from the fortress seige is relitivly easy and jousting is big points (got to 3rd level
    3rd opp and biffed it grrrrr. It's pretty fast! Also merlen MB is worth 5-10mil and ball save is activated througout alot of it. Ball saver isn't too bad eaither allthough I rather go for the MB 90% of the time. Also Gawain isn't so bad, it multiplies each combo shot so 15 orbit shots is really just 5 combo shots (1+2+3+4+5) Aurther is still insta drain for me though alot of times, whenever i dont make it all the way up the ex ramp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logic_FTW View Post
    Spent some time with excalubar last night (3 games) made 96.7M. I think
    100M is totaly doable, I just haven't played it enough. The extra ball from the fortress seige is relitivly easy and jousting is big points (got to 3rd level
    3rd opp and biffed it grrrrr. It's pretty fast! Also merlen MB is worth 5-10mil and ball save is activated througout alot of it. Ball saver isn't too bad eaither allthough I rather go for the MB 90% of the time. Also Gawain isn't so bad, it multiplies each combo shot so 15 orbit shots is really just 5 combo shots (1+2+3+4+5) Aurther is still insta drain for me though alot of times, whenever i dont make it all the way up the ex ramp.
    I took notice to the ball saver today and there is a long ball saver at the start of alot of the missions/quests (Holy Grail/King Arthur/Siege) It is only a matter of putting it all together into one game on this table OR doing the Siege and nailing the extra ball two or three times. 20m per ball on 5 balls is a heck of alot easier than 33m per ball on three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    I took notice to the ball saver today and there is a long ball saver at the start of alot of the missions/quests (Holy Grail/King Arthur/Siege) It is only a matter of putting it all together into one game on this table OR doing the Siege and nailing the extra ball two or three times. 20m per ball on 5 balls is a heck of alot easier than 33m per ball on three.
    Ironically, I got my 117M on 3 balls. Yesterday I earned 2 extra balls, and only hit 91M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    Ironically, I got my 117M on 3 balls. Yesterday I earned 2 extra balls, and only hit 91M.
    That's how it goes sometimes, swings and roundabouts. R&B is the worst for it. You can have 10 games score less than 10m of which 6 of them are less than 4m and then you have a decent run of over 50m such is the unpredictive nature of the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekro Neko View Post
    That's how it goes sometimes, swings and roundabouts. R&B is the worst for it. You can have 10 games score less than 10m of which 6 of them are less than 4m and then you have a decent run of over 50m such is the unpredictive nature of the table.
    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    Ironically, I got my 117M on 3 balls. Yesterday I earned 2 extra balls, and only hit 91M.
    (Enter Uranus Taunt mode) Funny, I got two extra balls and got 119m (Exit Uranus Taunt mode). (Yes, I am aware of how bad that sounds).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    (Enter Uranus Taunt mode) Funny, I got two extra balls and got 119m (Exit Uranus Taunt mode). (Yes, I am aware of how bad that sounds).
    DID YOU REALLY? STFU. You're a jerk. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    DID YOU REALLY? STFU. You're a jerk. LOL
    Don't worry, I am sure you will have a few Xbox live messages about it when you log on Multiball pushed me over the top after I failed Intermediate Joust 3 times in a row.

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    You DID. Well, good job...I guess.

    God****it.

    BTW, did you REALLY need to send that "I just whooped your ass on Excalibur" message FOUR times????

    You're not anywhere near as funny as you think you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    Don't worry, I am sure you will have a few Xbox live messages about it when you log on Multiball pushed me over the top after I failed Intermediate Joust 3 times in a row.
    LOL I have a beast of a time completing intermediate joust. I've only done it once. You should see what advanced looks like. Don't blink.

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    Sorry, Uranus, Secrets of the Deep is now done. Tip - Grind the Mine Ramp.

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    If anyone has problems with Earth Defence table, here's an easy way to get 100mil in 3 minutes!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v1_p_HEbjA
    PINBALL4EVER!!!!

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    Alas, that skillshot award doesn't appear to be available in the 360 version of the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble View Post
    Alas, that skillshot award doesn't appear to be available in the 360 version of the table.
    The skillshot award does not, but looping the ramp in multiball to collect the 100mil jackpot still works, you just have to unlock the subway the hard way, or lock the balls via the rescue hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekro Neko View Post
    I dunno if aiming for 100m is the right way to go, but maybe shooting for top 100 would be a better idea.

    I have 5 tables over 100m

    193m Secrets of the Deep
    102m Bioloab
    820m Pasha
    400m Wolverine
    239m Spider-Man

    My worst score is on Extreme which is still under 10m. My next closest to 100m is Blade on 85m so I may get that one next. I'm also aiming to get 1bn+ on Pasha which I'm confident I can do.

    The tables I think I should get over 100m on with a little effort on are Rocky & Bullwinkle, Earth Defense, Excalibur, Street Fighter II, Iron Man and Rome. The others, Speed Machine, Extreme, Agents, Buccaneer and Nightmare Mansion may be a struggle.
    how do you get 820m on pasha ive struggled to get 81m

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    Quote Originally Posted by wozfromcov View Post
    how do you get 820m on pasha ive struggled to get 81m
    I know in some instances, the easiest way to achieve a high score isn't necessarily completing all of the missions. It's finding the highest scoring segment of the table and beating it to death with a ball-peen hammer. It's the brute force method. I could probably achieve some higher scores with this method, but it bores me to death and really doesn't make me feel like I accomplished much of anything.

    Most of these guys are just good players. That's all there is to it. You know how simple it is to tie your shoes, right? That's what pinball is for these guys. Every once in a while they're forced to use a different knot, but....

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    I know in some instances, the easiest way to achieve a high score isn't necessarily completing all of the missions. It's finding the highest scoring segment of the table and beating it to death with a ball-peen hammer. It's the brute force method. I could probably achieve some higher scores with this method, but it bores me to death and really doesn't make me feel like I accomplished much of anything.

    Most of these guys are just good players. That's all there is to it. You know how simple it is to tie your shoes, right? That's what pinball is for these guys. Every once in a while they're forced to use a different knot, but....
    Its like that for some tables but Pasha is definitely not one of them. The key to the big scores are by completing the missions and activating the final mode multiple times in one game. I don't have 820mil but I have 442mil and this was achieved by completeing the wizard mode twice in one game. It starts at 50mil, 2nd time was 100mil and I guess it keeps going from there, so thats where the huge scores come on Pasha.

    Once you get the mini games down its not really that hard. The hardest part is defeating the guards for me. I am quite inconsistent with this but the rest is quite easy now that I have done it alot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    I know in some instances, the easiest way to achieve a high score isn't necessarily completing all of the missions. It's finding the highest scoring segment of the table and beating it to death with a ball-peen hammer. It's the brute force method. I could probably achieve some higher scores with this method, but it bores me to death and really doesn't make me feel like I accomplished much of anything.

    Most of these guys are just good players. That's all there is to it. You know how simple it is to tie your shoes, right? That's what pinball is for these guys. Every once in a while they're forced to use a different knot, but....
    As Ozzy pointed out, completing the missions is the best way to go on Pasha. I completed story mode 6 times in my best game and was well on the way to a 7th (damned guards). I have become really good at it, almost Zen like (see what I did there?), I managed to start a game yesterday and finished Wizard mode in less than 7 minutes from the start and did it again 6 minutes later.

    Pasha awards you 50m the first time round and then 100m every time after that. You get some large points for doing the modes several times over as well, like with the magnet game, you can earn 10m for the 3rd time round. It does reset afterwards though and you have to climb the ladder again.

    You could try and milk the last mission (wizard mode) by only hitting the snake with two balls and collecting 5m before letting the ball out of play when the ball save times out. (I think letting it drain in wizard mode doesn't lose you the ball you are on, can't remember because I've only failed the mode twice in 30+ efforts).

    Now, I have to claim my top spot on my FL because HeathenSauce is greedy and takes all my best scores away from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekro Neko View Post
    Pasha awards you 50m the first time round and then 100m every time after that. You get some large points for doing the modes several times over as well, like with the magnet game, you can earn 10m for the 3rd time round. It does reset afterwards though and you have to climb the ladder again.
    Damn I thought it kept going, as in 50mil, 100mil, 200, 400 etc. That makes the higher scores even more impressive now. Its a table I couldn't stand at first but I would have to say now is my second favourite (Wolverine being the first). I guess actually knowing what to do has helped me like it more but overall it just a fun to play table with stuff going on all the time and the score keeps ticking over nicely.

    Sorry for off topic. As for 100 mil being doable on every table, I would say definitely but some of the older tables just aren't fun to play at all up against the newer tables, not to mention they are low scoring so to score 100mil is going to be quite the effort and an exercise in frustration. How long would it take on a table like extreme? I think my high score game is 3mil (lol) and I already felt I have played more than enough of that table.
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    I just can't get my self to play any of the old tables, especially now that I have improved my skill to a good enough level to have 2-3 hour and longer games on some of the tables. I currently feel that there are 10 tables that I would like to significantly improve my scores on and just won't ever have time to play the older tables. Especially with so many new tables coming.

    If only there was no such thing as the guards mini-game on Pasha - I think I am actually getting worse at it! The table would have been so much easier. I also really struggle with the extra ball multi-ball so not getting enough of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OzV1 View Post
    Its like that for some tables but Pasha is definitely not one of them. The key to the big scores are by completing the missions and activating the final mode multiple times in one game. I don't have 820mil but I have 442mil and this was achieved by completeing the wizard mode twice in one game. It starts at 50mil, 2nd time was 100mil and I guess it keeps going from there, so thats where the huge scores come on Pasha.

    Once you get the mini games down its not really that hard. The hardest part is defeating the guards for me. I am quite inconsistent with this but the rest is quite easy now that I have done it alot.

    I disagree a little here. I believe UranusIsBroken is right with regards to Pasha too. I have an on-going game right now on ball 2.1 with 1.2B, and I have yet to complete the wizard mode.

    I personally find the lamp multi-ball a lot easier to complete, and it also has escalating awards capping out at 100M. The bright side with this method is, you never have to shoot the shot that starts a story, since in my opinion that is the most dangerous shot on the table. Probably a matter of preference, but I just wanted to say that you don't have to complete the story mode to get a high score efficiently (100M per successful multi-ball).

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    You could be right, but I had 180m in less than 15 minutes over the weekend doing the missions and wizard mode. How long does it take and how safe is it to do the lamp multiball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZodiacMunch View Post
    I disagree a little here. I believe UranusIsBroken is right with regards to Pasha too. I have an on-going game right now on ball 2.1 with 1.2B, and I have yet to complete the wizard mode.

    I personally find the lamp multi-ball a lot easier to complete, and it also has escalating awards capping out at 100M. The bright side with this method is, you never have to shoot the shot that starts a story, since in my opinion that is the most dangerous shot on the table. Probably a matter of preference, but I just wanted to say that you don't have to complete the story mode to get a high score efficiently (100M per successful multi-ball).
    Multi-ball is definitely a weakness in my game and I hadn't even taken your method into account, so I will retract my statement as absolute fact, as I just assumed everyone was doing it through the missions. I can get through the missions pretty regularly now, with a bit of luck on the damn guards minigame and the final mode isn't too hard but i may give the multi-ball route a try. I need the practice with it.

    I know what you mean with the shot through the bumpers but now I never get tempted to take the shot with a moving ball, only from a stopped ball and I find even with a miss, the ball doesn't come back too fast for me to react.

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    You could be right, but I had 180m in less than 15 minutes over the weekend doing the missions and wizard mode. How long does it take and how safe is it to do the lamp multiball?
    I doubt I had more than 180M after 15 minutes, but then again my first priority is getting elixired up.

    It doesn't take long provided you hit all of the shots. How long does it take to do this?
    * spinner shot x 2
    * snake drop targets plus ball capture x 3
    * 4 shots during multiball phase 1 (left orbit, left ramp, middle ramp, through-the-bumper-from-the-side-flipper shot)
    * 3 shots during multiball phase 2 (left ramp, middle ramp, oasis)

    If you lose a ball during multiball, you get stuck with 5M or 10M and no escalation. But, you get 2 free ballsavers during multiball. So just hit them fast, and your risk is minimized.

    I'm not saying this strategy is superior to wizard mode strategy. It is just an alternative that works better for me, and still gets you points at an decent rate provided you make your shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZodiacMunch View Post
    I doubt I had more than 180M after 15 minutes, but then again my first priority is getting elixired up.

    It doesn't take long provided you hit all of the shots. How long does it take to do this?
    * spinner shot x 2
    * snake drop targets plus ball capture x 3
    * 4 shots during multiball phase 1 (left orbit, left ramp, middle ramp, through-the-bumper-from-the-side-flipper shot)
    * 3 shots during multiball phase 2 (left ramp, middle ramp, oasis)

    If you lose a ball during multiball, you get stuck with 5M or 10M and no escalation. But, you get 2 free ballsavers during multiball. So just hit them fast, and your risk is minimized.

    I'm not saying this strategy is superior to wizard mode strategy. It is just an alternative that works better for me, and still gets you points at an decent rate provided you make your shots.
    Can you please enlighten me as to which shots you need to complete to get elixired up!!! I know how to start it and I often times keep the balls alive for quite a while without finishing the mode and not being able to see which shots I still need to complete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloda View Post
    Can you please enlighten me as to which shots you need to complete to get elixired up!!! I know how to start it and I often times keep the balls alive for quite a while without finishing the mode and not being able to see which shots I still need to complete
    Left orbit, spinner orbit, right ramp, cave of wonders target.

    Then you hit the snake to complete the mode.

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    I'm above 100 M only on 2 tables.

    Spiderman - 117 M
    Earth Defense - 121 M

    The closest I am to 100 M on the other tables is on SotD with 75,820,300. I still have a looong way to go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eviron View Post
    I'm above 100 M only on 2 tables.

    Spiderman - 117 M
    Earth Defense - 121 M

    The closest I am to 100 M on the other tables is on SotD with 75,820,300. I still have a looong way to go...
    Hold faith... Mars will be your third one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekro Neko View Post
    Left orbit, spinner orbit, right ramp, cave of wonders target.

    Then you hit the snake to complete the mode.
    Thanks A lot!!! To clarify... is the right ramp = Bazaar ramp and is the cave of wonders target = bottom right orbit (flame thinghy in the entrance)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloda View Post
    Thanks A lot!!! To clarify... is the right ramp = Bazaar ramp and is the cave of wonders target = bottom right orbit (flame thinghy in the entrance)?
    Correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloda View Post
    Hold faith... Mars will be your third one
    That might actually be quite possible because I'm going to play that table all week long. So looking forward to the release!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloda View Post
    I just can't get my self to play any of the old tables, especially now that I have improved my skill to a good enough level to have 2-3 hour and longer games on some of the tables. I currently feel that there are 10 tables that I would like to significantly improve my scores on and just won't ever have time to play the older tables. Especially with so many new tables coming.

    If only there was no such thing as the guards mini-game on Pasha - I think I am actually getting worse at it! The table would have been so much easier. I also really struggle with the extra ball multi-ball so not getting enough of them.
    Playing the old tables should provide you quite the challenge, especially since they're generally lower scoring. You have tables you want to significantly improve your scores on, so why not do it on the old ones? :-p I think you're short changing yourself by giving the old ones the cold shoulder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eviron View Post
    I'm above 100 M only on 2 tables.

    Spiderman - 117 M
    Earth Defense - 121 M

    The closest I am to 100 M on the other tables is on SotD with 75,820,300. I still have a looong way to go...
    Fret not. I've only cracked 100M on Excalibur, Biolab, Earth Defense, and Mars. The road is long. Just try and have fun along the way. It's not a race.

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    105m - Mars
    59m - Wolverine
    1024m - Spiderman
    51m - Iron Man
    24m - Blade
    109m - Secrets of the Deep
    176m - Biolab
    86m - Pasha
    101m - Rome
    36m - Speed Machine
    13m - Extreme
    46m - Agents
    68m - Buccaneer
    45m - Nightmare Mansion
    27m - Rocky & Bullwinkle
    44m - Street Fighter II
    130m - Earth Defense
    65m - Excalibur

    The only tables I know I definitely wont break 100m on are R&B, Extreme and Speed Machine. Extreme is extremely low-scoring, hence no desire to play, and the other two are just unbelievably (to me anyway) frustrating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flynn74 View Post
    The only tables I know I definitely wont break 100m on are R&B, Extreme and Speed Machine. Extreme is extremely low-scoring, hence no desire to play, and the other two are just unbelievably (to me anyway) frustrating.
    I counted the other day during a SINGLE ball (This was ball one), I "drained" on the left out lane (Mostly from a from a trampoline hit the right side) SIXTEEEN TIMES on Rocky and Bullwinkle. It was saved via CAKE or was during multiball fifteen of those times, the last was how I lost the Ball One. I quit after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    I counted the other day during a SINGLE ball (This was ball one), I "drained" on the left out lane (Mostly from a from a trampoline hit the right side) SIXTEEEN TIMES on Rocky and Bullwinkle. It was saved via CAKE or was during multiball fifteen of those times, the last was how I lost the Ball One. I quit after that.
    Yeah, table is quite nasty for drains. Kinda why I'd like a longer ball saver or easier to earn kickbacks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flynn74 View Post
    The only tables I know I definitely wont break 100m on are R&B, Extreme and Speed Machine. Extreme is extremely low-scoring, hence no desire to play, and the other two are just unbelievably (to me anyway) frustrating.
    Oh yeah... Speed Machine is mean! I wanted to crack the 40 M I somehow was able to score a long time ago but didn't even come close... The more I tried to control the ball the quicker it was gone. Hitting the ball away as soon as it comes down and near the flippers oddly worked better here. oO Really strange table...

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    Ok, Street Fighter II is Done. Now if Cloda would quit tempting me to rack up points on the easy tables to bump my superscore, I might get through most of these

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    Ok, Street Fighter II is Done. Now if Cloda would quit tempting me to rack up points on the easy tables to bump my superscore, I might get through most of these
    I don't buy it. You'd rather just bump your Spiderman score.

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    1. Pasha - DONE - 820m, 12th overall
    2. Blade - 86m, just short, not a table I'm good at but mainly because I haven't played it much
    3. Excalibur - DONE - 147m, 75th overall
    4. Bio Lab - DONE - 149m, 342nd overall

    5. Rome - DONE - 129m, 225th overall
    6. Wolverine - DONE - 654m, 24th overall
    7. Spider-man - DONE - 942m, 87th overall

    8. Nightmare Mansion - 603m, 10th overall
    9. Earth Defense - DONE - 263m, 32nd Overall
    10. Secrets of the Deep - DONE - 193m, 216th overall
    11. Ironman - 54m, came close to completing wizard mode but failed, reckon 100m is attainable
    12. Buccaneer - 83m, spamming frenzy and earning extra balls is all I need to do here, could get this.
    13. Street Fighter II Turbo - DONE - 241m, 25th overall
    14. Agents - 79m, not far off, just need to earn extra balls or find better ways of scoring
    15. Speed Machine - 41m, some way off but I reckon with some practice I can do it
    16. Extreme - 12m, not sure how to score heavily, scoring seems to take ages
    17. Rocky & Bullwinkle - 91m, I hate the table, too drainy, kickbacks are hard to earn
    18. Mars - DONE - 707m, 60th overall
    19. Fantastic Four - DONE - 613m, 32nd Overall
    Note - 1.8bn (1st) was done via a glitch, ignore it.

    Superscore - 4452 (4786 if all tables are 100m minimum)

    I will likely heavilly increase these to: (Method I will be using)
    - Pasha, 1,500m+ (Missions + Wizard) 680m to go
    - Wolverine, 900m+ (Missions + Wizard) 246m to go
    - Excalibur, 200m+ (Missions + Extra Balls) 53m to go
    - Biolab, 400m+ (Missions + Wizard + Multiball) 251m to go
    - Rome, 150m+ (Southern Garrison) 21m to go
    - Spider-Man, 1,250m+ (Pre-Wizard + Wizard) 308m to go
    - Earth Defense, 125m+ (Multiball) up to 263m
    - SotD, 500m+ (Multiball) 307m to go
    - Buccaneer, 100m+ (Frenzy Multiball + Extra Balls) 17m to go
    - SFII Tribute, 400m+ (Multiball + Extra Balls) 159m to go
    - Agents, 100m+ (Missions + Wizard) 21m to go
    - Mars, 1,500m+ (Missions, Wizard + Gravity Multiball) 793m to go


    These are my current realistic targets for those tables.

    The other table I expect to improve but I have no real method for scoring heavily on them right now.
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    Just scored a monster score on NM, 603m, but it did take 2 hours of play.

    I earned 6 extra balls on the run and on ball 2 I had a witch score of 9m with a 10x bonus. Orbits are super easy to hit, but need to careful with the right orbit because of the way the ball returns.

    Very satisfied. Pushed my superscore over 5k and into 28th overall.

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    My problem with reaching those high scores is my patience and concentration which both starts to fade after 20 minutes or so of play, I make silly mistakes then because I can't pay full attention anymore. Are you pausing the game after a while and go back after a short break sometimes? If I do so I lose the ball after only seconds most of the time because I'm out of the flow then...

    Anyway, my 100 M + scores as of now:

    > Spider-Man - 117 M
    > Street Fighter II - 119 M
    > Earth Defense - 121 M
    > Mars - 209 M

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    Increased my ED score from 66m to 229m. I now know how to score big on the table now so I may put in a monster of a score at some point.

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    Oh I think its very doable to get 100 million on each table if you put enough time into each table. Once you get the muscle memory down on that table everything flows much better. If you are doing this I would suggest do one time at a time and only play that table for the muscle memory to kick in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekro Neko View Post
    Superscore - 4452 (4786 if all tables are 100m minimum)

    I will likely heavilly increase these to: (Method I will be using)
    - Pasha, 1,500m+ (Missions + Wizard)
    - Wolverine, 900m+ (Missions + Wizard)
    - Excalibur, 200m+ (Missions + Extra Balls)
    - Biolab, 400m+ (Missions + Wizard + Multiball)
    - Rome, 150m+ (Southern Garrison)
    - Spider-Man, 1,250m+ (Pre-Wizard + Wizard)
    - Earth Defense, 125m+ (Multiball) Up to 229m
    - SotD, 500m+ (Multiball)
    - Buccaneer, 100m+ (Frenzy Multiball + Extra Balls)
    - SFII Tribute, 400m+ (Multiball + Extra Balls)
    - Agents, 100m+ (Missions + Wizard)
    - Mars, 1,500m+ (Missions, Wizard + Gravity Multiball)

    These are my current realistic targets for those tables.

    The other table I expect to improve but I have no real method for scoring heavily on them right now.
    Interesting. I like how you address how you are going to go about the scores. Some notes:
    Agents - With the current sniper mission glitches, it is just too random to be able to grind. Frustration factor at "locking" up a mission and not being able to complete it will hinder this. Not sure if I actually ever completed Wizard mode on this, not sure what kind of score boost to expect. But, yes, 100m if you can deal with that is something I achieved.

    Wolverine - 900m? Wow, I never feel that I am 'owning' this table, drains seem to be able to happen at any time, but if you feel you can do it, rock on!

    Earth Defense - is all about air strike multiball and you can SAVE the Air Strike multi-ball after you fail. I think you are aiming low

    SFII Tribute - If you can pick your shots and hit them, then the fights would be the way to go, well, Ryu anyway. Multi-ball would take too long to grind to 400m, at least I think.

    Rome - Can you just repeat Southern Garrison over and over?

    All of your plans of attack seem very sound, good luck!

    Edit - Oh, you forgot Rocky and Bullwinkle - Plan of attack is glitch the multi-ball and rack up Jackpots.
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    I agree with ED being a low target now, I reckon I can now go well over 500m+ on there now.

    Rome does indeed let you do the same garrison over and over. up to 12m for each run of it. Romulus could be another option.

    SFII I find is really easy to start the multiball and I tend to get a jump of 20m+ for every round of them, plus multiball nets me extra balls.

    Wolverine started off as a frustrating table but get the ball saver (SNIKT), Kickback and your timed ball saver up and you can play the table very confidently. Wizard mode gives you millions and it lets you know on the DMD

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    Biolab Done. Also I updated what place 100m will place you on each of the game leaderboards.

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    I haven't yet set any kind of *goal* for myself but think I will start too slowly.

    as far as the 100mil challenge is concerned this is what mine looks like; I am only over on ONE table: Spider-man >.<

    I have just got Mars and got 88mil on my 2nd game so pretty sure I will score big on this one.

    I am close on Pasha at 73Mil as well so not so bad.

    Going to try to get into the top 500 on every table at some point I think xD.

    My problem is that I don't take score routes - I like to just do the missions and often make stupidly risky shots rather than timing out modes etc.

    I will stop shooting for the Oasis on Pasha though when you get lost; as it is just pointless...

    Loooooooooooooong way to go for me yet >.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lepruk86 View Post
    My problem is that I don't take score routes - I like to just do the missions and often make stupidly risky shots rather than timing out modes etc.

    I will stop shooting for the Oasis on Pasha though when you get lost; as it is just pointless...
    I have never met a mission I didn't like LOL. I was joking with Uranusisbroken the other day that if there was a mission where you were supposed to drain it down the middle, I would not be able to resist doing it. It takes some real self control on my part to hold off doing risky missions and often give in and end up losing the ball on some silly mission with small payoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    I have never met a mission I didn't like LOL. I was joking with Uranusisbroken the other day that if there was a mission where you were supposed to drain it down the middle, I would not be able to resist doing it. It takes some real self control on my part to hold off doing risky missions and often give in and end up losing the ball on some silly mission with small payoff.
    hehe glad I am not the only one.

    Tbh the largest chunk of my playtime has been on lower scoring tables. I really like Iron-Man (am at about 50mil on that one) but for the life of me I can not seem to beat the Wizard mode.

    It is also one of the longest routes to WM out of any Zen table so failing to get there when you are just one mission or a couple of shots to go is hell-of-annoying.

    This thread did shock me how low my scores actually are though. On my friend's lists I am in the top 10 on the tables I have put excessive time into but on others I am waaaay down. I think it is just because I actually don't like a lot of the themes or the way certain tables play...

    EG Wolverine / Blade / SotD / Rome - These four tables I just can't get into enough to actually learn them.

    I like Mars a lot though; it seems a great balance between nice clear and simple shots with easy to follow rules but has some whackiness thrown in to keep it fresh and fun.

    (a little off topic sorry xD)

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    My MARS score has just increased from 209 M to 318 M. And I still haven't beaten the pyramid mission...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lepruk86 View Post

    I will stop shooting for the Oasis on Pasha though when you get lost; as it is just pointless...

    Here's a wee tip for the oasis shot buddy. Aim for the extreme right ramp/orbit (through the bumpers) and the ball ends up on the top right flipper at a nice speed to hit the oasis shot from the end of the flipper. I can hit it more often than not using this strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flynn74 View Post
    Here's a wee tip for the oasis shot buddy. Aim for the extreme right ramp/orbit (through the bumpers) and the ball ends up on the top right flipper at a nice speed to hit the oasis shot from the end of the flipper. I can hit it more often than not using this strategy.
    This is exactly what I do. Oasis shot is around 75% for me, the extreme right shot is about the same.

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    Rome is Done. What an utterly silly table. Instant Drain ramps, extra ball earned from taking silly chances on said ramps...and throw in a two-ball ROMULUS mode that nets you over 100m when you complete it. No play balance whatsoever on this table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    Rome is Done. What an utterly silly table. Instant Drain ramps, extra ball earned from taking silly chances on said ramps...and throw in a two-ball ROMULUS mode that nets you over 100m when you complete it. No play balance whatsoever on this table.
    Indeed.. Spent quite some time spamming the southern garrison, got to 60 Mill or so.. But then focussed on romulus and got 100m + for that.. Not rly statisfying as id rather get to wizard mode to set my highs..

    OT: 100m is doable.. But im more into getting top 100 scores on every table. After that top 50. An so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jop87 View Post
    OT: 100m is doable.. But im more into getting top 100 scores on every table. After that top 50. An so on.
    I wanted to give myself a static goal, one that doesn't change from day to day. For instance, I have scored in the top ten on two different tables but, since then, have been bumped down to the top 15 or so range. And, honestly, all tables are not created equal. I have no desire to play Rome ever again, so keeping a top 50 score on that table just is not something I want to do. Also, the lack of a Saved Game feature on the older tables means I have to sit down with at least 4 or so free hours to make a run at a new high score. I am sure i will come up with new goals if I ever hit 100m on all tables. 5 left to go

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    Fantastic Four is Done...until the Leaderboard reset

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    Blade Done. I will say I got a bit more appreciation for this table getting over 100m on it but it only made me think that this table is a few tweaks from perfection. Multi-ball is where it is at for score (Not counting wizard mode, which is where the good scores REALLY are) ,the fact you have to hang that upper flipper out to prevent SDTM drains on normal ramp shots makes me think it was a.) not planned or b.) not well thought out. Come on, who can hang a flipper out to divert a ball DURING multi-ball?!?!

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    I managed to get over 100m on blade last night, i am going to take a long break from that table now.

    On to the next table, Iron Man (think i have 75ish m) or Rome (97 m), i really don't like either of 'em... That romulus multiball keeps draining before i get to collect the jackpot, does anyone have any tips on how to finish the romulus thingy?

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    Right now I just really want to hit a billion on SOTD, my fave table. At the moment I'm on 713m but I'm on the last ball... a little over a billion would be top 15, which would be fantastic! Don't know if I'll get it this time... but I'll keep on til I get there.

    On a side note; I really don't see how the general scoring isn't higher for this table already. It's such a safe table that games last forever, as do the multiballs, it's ridiculously easy to combo shot on this table...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PassivePatric View Post
    I managed to get over 100m on blade last night, i am going to take a long break from that table now.

    On to the next table, Iron Man (think i have 75ish m) or Rome (97 m), i really don't like either of 'em... That romulus multiball keeps draining before i get to collect the jackpot, does anyone have any tips on how to finish the romulus thingy?
    In regards to Romulus, you can either backhand the captive ball from the right flipper (using a quick tap) or obviously hit it from the left. A successful shot from the left should go safely back down to the left flipper to be trapped. I believe (from memory) that the backhand shot may land in the right inlane, and roll down where you'll either need to nudge over to the left flipper, or shoot it and catch the ball again. But the backhand is certainly an option, and if there's 2 balls held in the right flipper then for sure go for the backhand shot. You've only got to hit it 4 times, I believe.

    When the head turns, shoot the orbit from the end of the left flipper. Alternatively an even quicker backhand shot with 2 balls held in the right should send one of them straight around the right orbit ready for the janus hole, which is a nice time-saving tactic in that situation. Then it's just a matter of timing with the upper flipper, but it's really not one of the hardest shots in the game. The hardest part of romulus is really just multiball control, which is just practise, really (i dont know if that's what you're finding a pain.)

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    Rocky and Bullwinkle is done. After playing it about three hours, brought it all together on Ball One and broke 100m before draining even once (Well, this is Rocky and Bullwinkle, CAKE ballsaver saved me about 25 times).

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    Just got 613m without using the glitch, though I did get a 200m Things Gift. I Got past wizard mode which also netted me 59m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekro Neko View Post
    Just got 613m without using the glitch, though I did get a 200m Things Gift. I Got past wizard mode which also netted me 59m.
    I have mostly been avoiding Fantastic Four, waiting on word of a glitch update or a leaderboard reset. But with Ironman, Speed Machine and Xtreme left on my "beat 100m" list, I might pick it back up. I have been enjoying speed machine but stuck at about 50m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    I have mostly been avoiding Fantastic Four, waiting on word of a glitch update or a leaderboard reset. But with Ironman, Speed Machine and Xtreme left on my "beat 100m" list, I might pick it back up. I have been enjoying speed machine but stuck at about 50m.
    LOL Uh huh. I was wondering how long it'd be before a steady diet of Ironman, Speed Machine, and Xtreme drove you to boredom. Although, I'm surprised you didn't get a weed up your ass and go after my Pasha or Excalibur scores. I take comfort in knowing that you'll likely never catch me on Excalibur (nudge, nudge). Something has gotta be sacred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    LOL Uh huh. I was wondering how long it'd be before a steady diet of Ironman, Speed Machine, and Xtreme drove you to boredom. Although, I'm surprised you didn't get a weed up your ass and go after my Pasha or Excalibur scores. I take comfort in knowing that you'll likely never catch me on Excalibur (nudge, nudge). Something has gotta be sacred.
    They actually do not drive me to boredom, but it is an uphill battle to boost my scores of them. You know I love me some Excalibur, Earth Defense, etc... More of a lack of time to play than a lack of desire to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    LOL Uh huh. I was wondering how long it'd be before a steady diet of Ironman, Speed Machine, and Xtreme drove you to boredom.
    Actually, I feel like I am making progress on upping my Iron Man score (~80m). Think I will stick with it until Captain America comes out. I'd feel better if I made a little progress on Ultimo..which I have blown miserably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jop87 View Post

    OT: 100m is doable.. But im more into getting top 100 scores on every table. After that top 50. An so on.
    Well, that's my goal too. Every table scores differently, so a point based goal is imho...well, pointless. I'd also like to reach the top 20 in a single table (wolverine is the one i guess i could do, now i'm 64th...) but there are some tables that seem to me like a patience challenge more than a pinball one...Also reaching th WM in every table would be cool...

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    Well, I still struggle with a vast majority of the tables, but I've managed a top 25 score in Excalibur, and just got inside of 70 on Wolverine with a ridiculous round round yesterday. I guess part of being able to put up a high score for me, is enjoying the table enough that I can even tolerate playing it for the length of time needed. LOL I finally bested my Biolab score and got that to like, 160M, but three times I got to wizard mode, hit all the ramps for the first portion, then couldn't hit the video-mode/mutation hole to save my f'ing life. That is probably THE most difficult shot for me on any table.

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    Heh. Zuprichy's at 66, and I'm 6M behind him at 68. Was so angry at how this game ended. I had an extra ball waiting for me in the top saucer, and lost the ball trying to squeeze another extra ball out by hitting the cross over shot during the Weapon-X mode after you drain out the right outlane with the regeneration lamp lit. Kinda frustrating. LOL

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    66th? Damn, you can never relax a little, you look the other way and you lose 2 positions... eh eh! By the way, same's here, i can really put myself only on tables i really love. Getting to know the right shots requires a LOT of time, for me at least. I'm a newb on pinball, fx2 is the first i tried ( got it 3 months ago), before that i thought pinball was only a matter of luck, i didn't even know there were missions and WM...i discovered a new world!

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    Since you're running out of **** to do, you need to retitle the thread "Personal Goal - Top 100 Score on Every Table"...give yourself some new motivation.

    By the way, along the way, this thread has kinda become a place to share some top score tips on the way to achieving one's individual goals, so I have one for Wolverine this morning, and it concerns activating the Claw Save

    The Claw Save is Wolverine's version on the ball saver, which prevents drains through either the primary, or outlanes. It is activated by hitting the left saucer sinkhole beneath the Weapon X machine 5 times, illuminating the letters "SNIKT". It's a fairly easy, and repeatable shot off the tip of the left flipper. While it is easies to orchestrate off a trapped ball, with practice, it can be hit on the move too. It should be of chief importance to anyone playing this table to have the Claw Save active at ALL TIMES. It is so easy to obtain, there is simply ZERO excuse for not activating it.

    Now for the actual trick. Before I figured out this trick, after I made a successful shot to this hole, I would let the ball eject, roll down the left inlane, and execute a flipper pass to the right side, trap the ball, then let it roll to the tip to perform the shot. Rinse, lather, repeat. However, I found a much more efficient manner to do this without having to flipper pass ( and thus run risk of tilting), or even trapping the ball.

    When the ball comes down the left inlane, fully depress the left trigger on the controller and extend the flipper. As the ball rolls up and off the flipper, it'll reach a minimal height where it will stall momentarily before starting to descend. At that moment, the ball will be reachable with the tip of the RIGHT flipper. Hit the ball with the right flipper, and it should fire the ball right back into the sinkhole to light another letter. You can literally have the ball save achieved in a matter of 15 seconds.

    As a caution, once in a while, the ball will get some friction coming down the inlane, and won't have enough juice to make it to the right flipper. LOL You'll have to learn to recognize these times so you don't serve up a nice, juicy, SDTM air ball. You might have to smash some flippers and save yourself if you don't recognize it immediately. At any rate, give it a whirl. I think once everyone sees what this is all about, they'll find themselves playing some fairly extended games on this table. As a benefit, this proces also helps you build up your kickbacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuprichy View Post
    66th? Damn, you can never relax a little, you look the other way and you lose 2 positions... eh eh! By the way, same's here, i can really put myself only on tables i really love. Getting to know the right shots requires a LOT of time, for me at least. I'm a newb on pinball, fx2 is the first i tried ( got it 3 months ago), before that i thought pinball was only a matter of luck, i didn't even know there were missions and WM...i discovered a new world!
    That's ok. I checked my Excalibur score, and I got bumped out of the top 20. LOL Couldn't believe two people recently posted higher scores on that table. I haven't been able to even come close to besting my score on that table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    Since you're running out of **** to do, you need to retitle the thread "Personal Goal - Top 100 Score on Every Table"...give yourself some new motivation.

    By the way, along the way, this thread has kinda become a place to share some top score tips on the way to achieving one's individual goals, so I have one for Wolverine this morning, and it concerns activating the Claw Save

    The Claw Save is Wolverine's version on the ball saver, which prevents drains through either the primary, or outlanes. It is activated by hitting the left saucer sinkhole beneath the Weapon X machine 5 times, illuminating the letters "SNIKT". It's a fairly easy, and repeatable shot off the tip of the left flipper. While it is easies to orchestrate off a trapped ball, with practice, it can be hit on the move too. It should be of chief importance to anyone playing this table to have the Claw Save active at ALL TIMES. It is so easy to obtain, there is simply ZERO excuse for not activating it.

    Now for the actual trick. Before I figured out this trick, after I made a successful shot to this hole, I would let the ball eject, roll down the left inlane, and execute a flipper pass to the right side, trap the ball, then let it roll to the tip to perform the shot. Rinse, lather, repeat. However, I found a much more efficient manner to do this without having to flipper pass ( and thus run risk of tilting), or even trapping the ball.

    When the ball comes down the left inlane, fully depress the left trigger on the controller and extend the flipper. As the ball rolls up and off the flipper, it'll reach a minimal height where it will stall momentarily before starting to descend. At that moment, the ball will be reachable with the tip of the RIGHT flipper. Hit the ball with the right flipper, and it should fire the ball right back into the sinkhole to light another letter. You can literally have the ball save achieved in a matter of 15 seconds.

    As a caution, once in a while, the ball will get some friction coming down the inlane, and won't have enough juice to make it to the right flipper. LOL You'll have to learn to recognize these times so you don't serve up a nice, juicy, SDTM air ball. You might have to smash some flippers and save yourself if you don't recognize it immediately. At any rate, give it a whirl. I think once everyone sees what this is all about, they'll find themselves playing some fairly extended games on this table. As a benefit, this proces also helps you build up your kickbacks.
    This is a good post and the technique you use for activating the claw save is a sound one but like you acknowledge in your last paragragh their is slight risk involved in doing it, even though it the "quick way" and sometimes you do just want to get it done and get back to playing but there is always that odd time where it falls just short. I used to do it the way you mentioned above all the time, although I wouldn't "hold" the flipper when the ball is on its way down, but if you get the timing spot on, the ball will sit up just a little bit higher, making it a little safer but it does require pretty spot on timing.

    For that slight risk I mentioned above I now just use those tiny nudges to pass that don't set off the TILT. After some practice you can either bump it just enough to be able to trap it or even softer to land it right on the tip for an instant shot. A little more risky but because your left flipper won't be held up it gives a little more room for the shot and a miss will often just go back up the inlane (and in SNIKT if your lucky).

    Just offering an alternate method that offers slightly less risk. Both methods are fine though because like you said you can learn to recognize if the speed of the ball is slightly slower. I don't really know what affects the speed as it should be the same speed everytime but it kills to get caught out especially when you only need to light the 'T'.

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    I think, for whatever reason, the ball sometimes grabs a bit more of the lane, or comes out with a bit of spin that slows it down. I like avoiding the flipper passes, if necessary.

    Another thing I've discovered is in regard to the 1M point bumper shots after defeating Sentinel. It's easy enough to get the ball back up to the bumpers via orbit shots, but you have to alternate using the left and right orbits to get back up there. There's some kinda switch up top, and if you keep using the same orbit, it won't deflect the ball into the bumpers, and instead will let the ball travel around the orbit in its entirety. I've been getting a ton of points with the bumper hits post battle with Sentinel. Also, hitting the orbits during regular game play routinely puts you up in the bumpers, advancing you to your next encounter with Sentinel, while simultaneously helping advance your multiplier. Get up there often enough, and not only will you max out the multiplier, but you'll also activate the hold on the multiplier, letting you start your next ball with the max. I've also hit the bumpers enough times that it lights up the extra ball, as a result of maxing the multiplier, again. After some time on the table, I've found it to be a pretty decent scoring table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    I think, for whatever reason, the ball sometimes grabs a bit more of the lane, or comes out with a bit of spin that slows it down. I like avoiding the flipper passes, if necessary.

    Another thing I've discovered is in regard to the 1M point bumper shots after defeating Sentinel. It's easy enough to get the ball back up to the bumpers via orbit shots, but you have to alternate using the left and right orbits to get back up there. There's some kinda switch up top, and if you keep using the same orbit, it won't deflect the ball into the bumpers, and instead will let the ball travel around the orbit in its entirety. I've been getting a ton of points with the bumper hits post battle with Sentinel. Also, hitting the orbits during regular game play routinely puts you up in the bumpers, advancing you to your next encounter with Sentinel, while simultaneously helping advance your multiplier. Get up there often enough, and not only will you max out the multiplier, but you'll also activate the hold on the multiplier, letting you start your next ball with the max. I've also hit the bumpers enough times that it lights up the extra ball, as a result of maxing the multiplier, again. After some time on the table, I've found it to be a pretty decent scoring table.
    If you take note of the lights that are flashing on either orbit this will tell you whether the ball will be caught in the bumpers or not. Basically if its flashing, this means you are on a "combo" shot. By shooting the flashing orbit it will open it up for a short period of time.

    Basically for me and probably most of the other high scorers on this table Sentinel, his million point bumpers and the Claw Save are the keys to high scores, while playing relatively safely. Also I may play Sabretooth as his "million point spins" are great for score, but defeating him is harder than Sentinel and the shots required to beat him are more risky.

    From your posts it sounds as though you are just getting into this table, so next time you finish a Sentinel take note of the flashing orbits. By taking note of this you can get it up in the bumpers four times before time expires, which is always going to be good points but sometimes they give you huge points.

    Basically shoot on orbit, then the other and when you have the ball back in control just wait for the orbit to stop flashing and repeat. Also like you said, this is a quick way to get your first extra ball. After this you should then work towards the 3 fastlane specials (I don't play them out though, far too risky).

    EDIT- One other tip for Sentinels to get max (or close to) scores for ramps shots, which are around 4.5 million. When the ball comes out of the bumpers and you get the "Target confirmed, targeting System locked", the ball most often comes down the table at an angle heading towards the left flipper. Leave the flipper down, let it bounce over to the right. This will give you a running shot at the SNIKT target for max points. You can also catch the ball with this method but that will slow you down and your ramp scores will be aroun 3-3.5 million
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    Thanks for the heads up. I LOVE the fast ball modes. I just didn't know there were three. I know there's the Fastball special from hitting the right ramp, and the Rage that comes from hitting the right/left lanes alternately...but what's the 3rd??? I never go into these modes, mind you, without both kickbacks and the claw save. If I lose any of them during the mode, I let it time out. Besides, you can get an extra ball if you activate the Fastball special three times in one ball, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    Thanks for the heads up. I LOVE the fast ball modes. I just didn't know there were three. I know there's the Fastball special from hitting the right ramp, and the Rage that comes from hitting the right/left lanes alternately...but what's the 3rd??? I never go into these modes, mind you, without both kickbacks and the claw save. If I lose any of them during the mode, I let it time out. Besides, you can get an extra ball if you activate the Fastball special three times in one ball, I believe.
    Sorry I should have been clearer, there is only one fastball special. I think I called it "fastlane" lol but thats what I meant. Yeah get this three times in one ball for the extra ball. I agree it is a fun mode but in a high score game I always know I will rue the decision to have a shot at it. Its great if you can consistently hit either BOND ramp or RAGE ramp consistently but hit an orbit and there is no telling where the ball might go, and at what speed. For this reason it isn't part of my scoring strategy for this table but if I am having a game that just falls apart I sometimes play this mode for the fun of it.

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    I currently have a few goals on PBFX2:
    1 - Score 100m+ on every table
    2 - Score/rank in the top 100 on every table.
    3 - Superscore above 9000 points.
    4 - Get to Wizard Mode on all tables (denoted by 1 *)
    5 - Defeat Wizard Mode on all tables (denoted by 2 **)

    Here is my progress to date (7/13/11 - improved on Wolverine, Captain America):

    Score (Rank) - Table
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    633m (33) - Wolverine*
    2,511m (28) - Spiderman**
    121m (38) - Iron Man**
    486m (32) - Blade**
    734m (57) - Mars**
    592m (90) - Fantastic Four** (no scoring glitch)
    486m (43) - Captain America**
    257m (143) - Secrets of the Deep
    277m (73) - Biolab**
    235m (126) - Pasha**
    156m (126) - Rome
    94m (86) - Speed Machine**
    37m (98) - Extreme
    195m (14) - Agents**
    149m (13) - Buccaneer**
    257m (25) - Rocky & Bullwinkle (took advantage of 'stuck' multi-ball)
    215m (74) - Earth Defense
    234m (34) - Excalibur
    321m (28) - Nightmare Mansion**
    209m (42) - Street Fighter II

    8759 (31) - Superscore

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    I'm pretty close on my scoring goals with the exception of Extreme. I really haven't figured out a good way to score big points on this table.

    It should be noted that on some tables (Iron Man, Speed Machine, Agents, Buccaneer, Rocky & Bullwinkle, Extreme), that a score of 100m+ should guarantee a good ranking.

    As far as Wizard Modes go, I've been focusing on R&B but keep failing at Sherman & Peabody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyRC_Racer View Post
    I currently have 2 scoring goals on PBFX2:
    1 - Score 100m+ on every table
    2 - Score/rank in the top 100 on every table.
    Still working on my static goal of 100m. Got 100m on Cap America on my third game, so that was a easy one Hit 83m on Ironman last night, I need to quit chocking post-Ultimo (and during Ultimo LOL). Xtreme is going to be brutal but your score on Speed Machine gives me hope that at least it is achievable. Great job man!

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    Are table tags allowed on this forum, it would make it so much neater if they are.

    Captain America table should be a very easy one to score over 100m on, I suspect it'll be somewhere in the realm of 500m - 1bn when I get used to it. So many missions, I love it.

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    Default Down Goes Iron Man!

    Down goes Iron Man! 127 Million. And you know that that means (glances at Speed Machine and Extreme)....Time to play Captain America!
    Oddly enough, I am now good for at least one or two free balls on the Iron Man table now.The amount of patience required is, however, godlike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    Down goes Iron Man! 127 Million. And you know that that means (glances at Speed Machine and Extreme)....Time to play Captain America!
    Oddly enough, I am now good for at least one or two free balls on this table now.The amount of patience required is, however, godlike.
    You're already over 100M on Captain America! Speed Machine! Xtreme!

    C'mon! Chop chop! Get to work buddy!

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    Added * for each Wizard Mode reached.
    Added ** for each Wizard Mode Beaten.

    For Instance, I have reached the Wizard Mode on Speed Machine multiple times but I don't THINK i have beaten it. I believe it takes 20 spinner shots without losing the Wizard Multiball to beat it. Agents is equally mysterious, I know I have started it but pretty sure I have not beaten it.

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