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    Here is the list of videos for each table. Please only use Youtube as a video host, this is for consistancy.

    AGENTS
    Achievement: Reliable - PhantomAudio83
    Achievement: Teamwork - PhantomAudio83
    Achievement: Sniper - PhantomAudio83


    BIOLAB
    Mission: Reflex Upgrade - PhantomAudio83
    Mission: Wisdom Upgrade - PhantomAudio83


    BLADE
    Wizard Mode - StormtrooperMX19
    Wizard Mode - Hypno74


    BUCCANEER


    CAPTAIN AMERICA
    Gameplay: Start to Finish - OzV1
    Wizard Mode - Hypno74
    Achievements - StormtrooperMx19
    Starting A Mission - StormtrooperMx19
    Super Skillshot: Saving Bucky - StormtrooperMx19
    Extra Ball: Supply Drop - StormtrooperMx19


    EARTH DEFENSE
    Table Exploit: Airstrike Multiball - Hypno74*


    Epic Quest


    EXCALIBUR
    Achievement: Renowned Knight - PhantomAudio83
    Mission: Questing Beast Mode - Hypno74*


    EXTREME
    Achievement: Street Artist - PhantomAudio83
    Achievement: King of the Playground - PhantomAudio83
    Achievement: Skybencher - PhantomAudio83


    FANTASTIC FOUR
    Start to Finish - Cloda
    Trophies/Achievements - StormtrooperMx19*
    Gameplay + 40x Bonus Exploit - Hypno74*


    GHOST RIDER
    Gameplay: Start to Finish - Hypno74*


    IRON MAN
    Gameplay: Start to Finish |Pt 1|Pt 2|Pt 3| - Cloda
    Gameplay: Start to Finish - OzV1
    Achievement: Tony Stark - StOrMtRoOpErMx19
    Wizard Mode - StormtrooperMX19
    Wizard Mode - OzV1


    MARS
    Achievement: Archeologist - PhantomAudio83
    Mission: Pyramid - Hypno74*
    Wizard Mode - Hypno74*


    Moon Knight
    Gameplay: Scoring Big - Hypno74*


    NIGHTMARE MANSION


    PARANORMAL
    Trophies/Achievements? - Hypno74*
    Mission: Haunted House - Hypno74*


    PASHA
    Gameplay: Start to Finish - Nekro Neko
    Extra Ball, Elixer method - Paranoid User
    Achievement: Desert Explorer - PhantomAudio83
    Achievement: Legendary Swordsman - PhantomAudio83
    Achievement: Story Teller - PhantomAudio83
    Table Feature: Magnet Minigame (Controller View) - PhantomAudio83


    ROCKY AND BULLWINKLE


    ROME
    Gameplay: Start to Finish |Pt 1|Pt 2| - OzV1


    SECRETS OF THE DEEP


    SORCERER'S LAIR
    Gameplay - Hypno74*


    SPEED MACHINE


    SPIDER-MAN
    Achievement: Clever Fighter - StormtrooperMX19
    Achievement: Clone Chaos - StormtrooperMX19
    Table Exploit, 62m orbits - Hypno74*


    STREET FIGHTER II TRIBUTE
    Achievement: World Warrior - StormtrooperMX19
    Bison Fight + Extra Ball - Hypno74*


    THOR
    Gameplay: Start to Finish - Hypno74*
    Gameplay: High Scoring Strategy - TommyCyBeRRoy
    Table Feature: Lightning Combo - Hypno74*


    WOLVERINE
    Gameplay: Start to Finish - OzV1
    Achievement: Mutant Beater - PhantomAudio83
    Achievement: Mutant Beater - StOrMtRoOpErMx19
    Achievement: Adamantium Skeleton - PhantomAudio83
    Table Feature: SNIKT - Cloda


    X-MEN
    Wizard Mode: Phoenix - Hypno74*
    Wizard Mode: Sentinel - Hypno74*


    Tips
    Basic pinball skills - OzV1
    Flynn's Kickbacks, Multipliers, Ball Saves and Extra Balls Thread


    General Reviews
    Classic Game Room - |Pt 1| Pt 2|

    Thanks to, Paranoid User, Cloda and Womble for their input.

    *Score made on Zen Pinball, physics can be significantly different.
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    booking this space incase I may need it

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    and a final space, just to be safe

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    I'm making a call out for anyone to provide some video guides either to get high scores, start to finish playing all modes, or just doing special shots and showing how to do certain techniques like the back handers or a Bang back.

    I'll probably add some myself.

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    Captain America - wizard mode by Hypno74

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-idczYFM9mUL


    Captain America - Trophies by StormtrooperMx19

    http://www.youtube.com/user/StOrMtRo...DFCC5538B00445


    Sorcerer's Lair - by Hypno74

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KPQ0Ef_ef0


    Mars - Pyramid mission by Hypno74

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sByN6Lhzqo


    Excalibur - 5 Million by Hypno74

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1gtGJJje4

    Note: PS3 version. Physics are different on 360, you probably won't be able to trap the ball like Hypno does. The basic concept remains the same, though.


    Street Fighter II - Bison Fight and Extra Ball, by Hypno74

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tLjF13hlM


    Earth Defense - high scoring by Hypno74

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v1_p_HEbjAL

    Note: PS3 version. The subway skillshot is not available in Pinball FX 2 so you'll have to light Air Strike Multiball Ball Locks the long way (by hitting alternating ramp shots).


    Paranormal - Trophies by Hypno74

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0I4tCBOlo


    Paranormal - Haunted House by Hypno74

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fphWhHRp17Q


    Fantastic Four - Missions and Trophies by StormtrooperMx19

    http://www.youtube.com/user/StOrMtRo...6386A89A70E2A7


    Speed Machine - 306 million by MightySquirrel

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMgx_H3j4uU


    Biolab - Reflex Upgrade by PhantomAudio83

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83TFLr2M1pI


    Biolab - Wisdom Upgrade by PhantomAudio83

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M32QJsRkwbw


    Agents - Reliable Cheevo by PhantomAudio83

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs9FfY7XZ6g


    Agents - Teamwork Cheevo by PhantomAudio83

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amuz7qnvBNE


    Agents - Sniper Mission by PhantomAudio83

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6RfOKSIj_k


    Extreme - Street Artist Cheevo by PhantomAudio83

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTLvrRYBQxs


    Extreme - King of the Playground Cheevo by PhantomAudio83

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJNA4KxdTgA


    Extreme - Skybencher Cheevo by PhantomAudio83

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho2tZ2Iz4Ks



    PAPA real life pinball tutorials and tournament plays:

    http://www.vimeo.com/user4577902


    Chris Bucci - "The Pinball Collector" real life pinball reviews

    http://www.youtube.com/user/spida1a#...8D4DB4E1491698
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    I don't understand the reasoning behind identical tables playing differently on FX2 versus Zen Pinball. It makes ZERO sense. It makes any kinds of comparisons from a scoring perspective completely irrelevant between the two. I really have to scratch my head at why the two suites are different in terms of playability. You DEFINITELY cannot trap the ball coming out of the mission hole on Excalibur in the 360 version. It comes down with entirely too much heat. Something as simply as that VASTLY changes how the game plays.

    My recommendation, for the purposes of this thread, is to only permit videos where what is shown, is possible on the 360 version. That is...if you're going to use a video from the PS3's Zen Pinball, make sure the technique illustrated is feasible on the corresponding FX2 table. Unless of course, you simply want to show the general process.

    Oh, and for the record, the Earth Defense exploit, is gay.


    Awesome thread, however, Has a ton of potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    I don't understand the reasoning behind identical tables playing differently on FX2 versus Zen Pinball.
    It appears the underlying engines have changed over time. Or at the very least, their usage has changed in individual tables.

    Potted history and pre-history:

    2007 - Pinball FX released. Features some spotty physics and a ping-pong ball. Flipper trapping is unconvincing. UI is rather basic and unappealing. Tables are a good first try, but rudimentary.

    2009 - Zen Pinball released. Ping-pong physics and flipper trapping remain, but the included tables are noticeably superior to Pinball FX's initial offerings. UI, overall presentation and feature set is far beyond Pinball FX's. The ball displays noticeable (and unrealistic) spin. 360 users feel a little jealous.

    2010 - Pinball FX 2 released. Appears to use a new or modified physics engine. Included tables are generally superior to previous efforts. Flipper trapping feels much more realistic, the ball's spin is more accurate, and the UI has been greatly overhauled. Many features added. Original Pinball FX 1 tables modified slightly, can be re-downloaded. PS3 users feel a little jealous.

    Late 2010 - Marvel Pinball released for PS3 as a standalone app, and as tables for Pinball FX 2. Appears to use the same physics engine on both consoles. (i.e. uses the same engine as Pinball FX 2.)

    [rampant speculation ahead]

    2012 - "convergence" of Marvel Pinball and Zen Pinball to be released for PS3. Let's call it Zen Pinball 2 for now. Huzzah. Presumably will use (at least) the physics engine from Marvel/Pinball FX 2. Guess: original Zen Pinball tables may be upgraded to suit, as Pinball FX 1 tables were.

    2012 - Pinball FX 2.5 released. At this point, Pinball FX and Zen Pinball are probably functionally similar, using the same physics engine, featuring much the same content (apart from platform exclusives).

    Early 2012 - Zen Pinball 2 (or some platform like it) to be released for PC. To paraphrase Michelasso:

    ... as soon as it hits the PC market there will be millions of players and dozens of buyers...
    Editorial: PC users will complain about having to pay $2.99 for DLC "when it should have been included in the purchase price", will complain about "console-itis" and "being dumbed down", have problems maintaining 60fps on their 8 year old PC and thus will blame "lazy developers", and will use all this as a justification for pirating it.


    Early to mid 2012 - ZP2 to be released for PS Vita.

    Late 2012 - ZP2 to be released for Wii U.


    Oh, and for the record, the Earth Defense exploit, is gay.
    Probably why they removed it in the 360 version.

    However, the basic concept is still there. It's just that you have to work harder to start Air Strike Multiball.

    And, it is a risk-reward thing: you can build up your Jackpot value, but you only score when you hit the Jackpot itself. And you have to ensure that you do this quickly enough so that Invasion doesn't interrupt the festivities.

    I'm not entirely sure the Jackpot values in the 360 version are accurate. I'm almost certain it's been telling me my Jackpot values are far higher than what is being awarded. They seem to be out by an extra digit...

    Another problem with Earth Defense is being awarded Locks as the skillshot. That really does make it worthwhile to simply restart the game until you get Locks, which is not something I want in a pinball.

    (Maybe this could be fixed with a credits-unlocking system, like Pinball Hall of Fame's?)
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    I love Earth Defense, but the Invasion deal is quite annoying. If you hit the captive ball when everything's going swimmingly, it brings the invasion closer. If you hit it again...it brings it CLOSER. In fact the only way to really prevent it, is hitting it within a very small window. My score on ED is decent, but mostly because I don't spam the daylights out of the Airstrike Multiball like a certain individual whose name I won't mention. :-p

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    I love Earth Defense, but the Invasion deal is quite annoying. If you hit the captive ball when everything's going swimmingly, it brings the invasion closer. If you hit it again...it brings it CLOSER. In fact the only way to really prevent it, is hitting it within a very small window. My score on ED is decent, but mostly because I don't spam the daylights out of the Airstrike Multiball like a certain individual whose name I won't mention. :-p
    South African by any chance?

    I'll update this at some point tomorrow hopefully.

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    South African? No. Quarter each German, Polish, Irish, and Scottish. That means I'm an American. LOL

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    Death Kitty was referring to Cloda, a known score hacker, South African and ramp grinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble View Post
    Death Kitty was referring to Cloda, a known score hacker, South African and ramp grinder.
    LOL i see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    My score on ED is decent, but mostly because I don't spam the daylights out of the Airstrike Multiball like a certain individual whose name I won't mention. :-p
    He is referring to someone who tends to play the tables, "break them" (find the best scoring chance and exploit the crap out of it), and use that to make up for his lack of skill in actual virtual pinball. Not sure if Airstrike Multiball actually gives 100m when maxed out on 360 but it is still the way to go for best points on ED.

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    There is a video of Purple Vomit taking it to Speed Machine on Youtube. It is pre-PFX2 and some of the nauances have been changed (the kick from the mission hole, for one) but it is still a great video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    He is referring to someone who tends to play the tables, "break them" (find the best scoring chance and exploit the crap out of it), and use that to make up for his lack of skill in actual virtual pinball. Not sure if Airstrike Multiball actually gives 100m when maxed out on 360 but it is still the way to go for best points on ED.
    Airstrike Multiball does pay out 100M on the 360 version using the same method of doubling the jackpot via the ramps.

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    Is it possible to have the material in the initial post alphabetized by table for ease of location?

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    Updated List

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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble View Post
    Death Kitty was referring to Cloda, a known score hacker, South African and ramp grinder.
    Only one of the above statements is true all of the time


    Thank for the excellent thread Nekro Neko. It is coming along very nicely.

    PS - The two StormtrooperMx19 links didn't work when I tried it now.
    Last edited by Cloda; 07-05-2011 at 06:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloda View Post
    Only one of the above statements is true all of the time


    Thank for the excellent thread Nekro Neko. It is coming along very nicely.

    PS - The two StormtrooperMx19 links didn't work when I tried it now.
    Cheers for the heads up, I'll look into that when I'm feeling a bit more rested.

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    Hey...Nekro! Alphabetize yo list by table name, fool. LOL

    It'll make locating information easier. The author of the kickbacks, ball save, extra ball thread did the same thing. Makes finding info much easier.

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    Such an excellent thread.

    I miss Purple Vomit, he doesn't play PFX2 often and he used to be one of the best at PFX1. Need to make him start playing again.


    Official Pinball Guides (PFX3 etc.) - Written & Video Form

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    Just for the record, I wouldn't describe the Earth Defense 100 million as an exploit. It's a legitimate part of the game, designed as risk-reward element.

    But yeah, the PS3's use of the subway system from a skillshot is exploitable. Probably a good thing it was removed in PFX2.

    The scoring system is also different between the two versions.

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    Nekro!

    I swear to Christ, if you don't alphabetize this information by table name, I'm going to hack your account and do it myself. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    Nekro!

    I swear to Christ, if you don't alphabetize this information by table name, I'm going to hack your account and do it myself. LOL
    Hmmm, maybe I'll leave it like that :P

    I did alphabetise my games earlier though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble View Post
    Just for the record, I wouldn't describe the Earth Defense 100 million as an exploit. It's a legitimate part of the game, designed as risk-reward element.

    But yeah, the PS3's use of the subway system from a skillshot is exploitable. Probably a good thing it was removed in PFX2.

    The scoring system is also different between the two versions.
    It was more of an inside joke between me and Uranusisbroken, he insists I always find a scoring grind and exploit it (airstrike multiball,romulus multiball,mine multiball, frenzy muliball)instead of playing the tables they way they are "supposed" to be played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    It was more of an inside joke between me and Uranusisbroken, he insists I always find a scoring grind and exploit it (airstrike multiball,romulus multiball,mine multiball, frenzy muliball)instead of playing the tables they way they are "supposed" to be played.
    Who was joking? LOL

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    the quali is bad ,but i have made a video for dr doom fantastic four

    http://de.justin.tv/weedo1984/b/287482844
    sry for my really bad english

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    Would someone be so kind as to create a video for SoTD regarding the left plunger, habitrail, escape route, and multipliers? I'm clueless on the entire bunch. Truly clueless. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble View Post
    Just for the record, I wouldn't describe the Earth Defense 100 million as an exploit. It's a legitimate part of the game, designed as risk-reward element.

    But yeah, the PS3's use of the subway system from a skillshot is exploitable. Probably a good thing it was removed in PFX2.

    The scoring system is also different between the two versions.
    It's an exploit, within the rules, but it is an exploit, this is opposed to an expoitation of a glitch to gain a highscore such as 40x Torch Multiplier. I won't be posting videos that are that kind of exploit.

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    Captain America - Starting Cap's Missions and Supply Drop Extra Ball by StormtrooperMX19

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dumZF5pUiTc

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    He is referring to someone who tends to play the tables, "break them" (find the best scoring chance and exploit the crap out of it), and use that to make up for his lack of skill in actual virtual pinball. Not sure if Airstrike Multiball actually gives 100m when maxed out on 360 but it is still the way to go for best points on ED.
    You know, my high score on ED is like, 117M. Today, on my first game of ED, I got the "LOCK IS LIT" for my skill shot. I started the Airstrike Multiball and trapped two balls on the left flipper. With ball on the right flipper, I beat the crap out of the left ramp repeatedly. I finished the mod with a score of 108M. Do you know I didn't top my high score?

    However, the most important part is, I got over 100M on the multiball, and didn't even know it. I couldn't believe my score after that mode. It didn't feel like I had to hit that many shots to get it either.

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    UIB is a dirty fibber.

    AirStrike Multiball will not give you 100 million points for 10 loop shots or so. Nor can you keep on doing this by nailing the Invasion captive ball a few times during multiball.

    Don't even try it kids. It's not going to happen. Best not play Earth Defense at all.

    Better go play Rocky & Bullwinkle instead. Leave Earth Defense to those of who like tiny scores.

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    Can't wait for a guide for this table. I have a total of 10 tables unlocked...I have all tables unlocked except 4....(you come up with how many I have unlocked because I can't remember exactly how many in total there are.) With about 10 tables unlocked I only truely know how to play 4. But I got Captain America table last night and I'm loving it. I could care less about about the other tables I have yet to play that I have unlocked. I rather play this table without knowing a thing rather than learning the other tables. I like how open the table is, and it's a "war" table. Chop chop guys get a guide together because I'm too newb to do it. So newb that I get excited about my measly 41m on Excalibur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble View Post
    UIB is a dirty fibber.

    AirStrike Multiball will not give you 100 million points for 10 loop shots or so. Nor can you keep on doing this by nailing the Invasion captive ball a few times during multiball.

    Don't even try it kids. It's not going to happen. Best not play Earth Defense at all.

    Better go play Rocky & Bullwinkle instead. Leave Earth Defense to those of who like tiny scores.
    I am telling you right now, I played a game today where the lock was lit right off the start of the game resulting from the skill shot. I IMMEDIATELY started the Air Strike Multiball, having completed ZERO missions prior. When the mode timed out, I had over 100M. Now, my sarcasm sensor might be a little wonky at this hour, but I can tell you definitively that I socred 100M on the Airstrike Multiball this morning. As for the Invasion captive ball, I cannot speak. I never tried to hit it as I had two balls trapped on the left flipper, and since the flipper was upright, I could not attempt that shot with the right flipper with out drilling the ball into the underside of the flipper and draining it. :-p

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    Quote Originally Posted by suikostinger View Post
    Can't wait for a guide for this table. I have a total of 10 tables unlocked...I have all tables unlocked except 4....(you come up with how many I have unlocked because I can't remember exactly how many in total there are.) With about 10 tables unlocked I only truely know how to play 4. But I got Captain America table last night and I'm loving it. I could care less about about the other tables I have yet to play that I have unlocked. I rather play this table without knowing a thing rather than learning the other tables. I like how open the table is, and it's a "war" table. Chop chop guys get a guide together because I'm too newb to do it. So newb that I get excited about my measly 41m on Excalibur.
    Welcome to pinball bliss. LOL You'll have all the tables soon enough. Lots to learn, but it's a fun journey. Exaclibur is one of my favorite tables. I scored 297M on it once, and haven't come close since. EVen when you finally put up a whopper...it can be tough to get back there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suikostinger View Post
    Can't wait for a guide for this table. I have a total of 10 tables unlocked...I have all tables unlocked except 4....(you come up with how many I have unlocked because I can't remember exactly how many in total there are.) With about 10 tables unlocked I only truely know how to play 4. But I got Captain America table last night and I'm loving it. I could care less about about the other tables I have yet to play that I have unlocked. I rather play this table without knowing a thing rather than learning the other tables. I like how open the table is, and it's a "war" table. Chop chop guys get a guide together because I'm too newb to do it. So newb that I get excited about my measly 41m on Excalibur.
    Just read through the first impressions thread for Captain America as everything is discussed there. The tables ingame rulesheet also covers everything really well. A guide will also be posted on the Marvel pinball web-site soon I suspect so keep an eye on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    I am telling you right now, I played a game today where the lock was lit right off the start of the game resulting from the skill shot.
    I was kidding, guy.

    Yes, Hypno74's tactic (or was it StevieJ's?) does work. But the scoring is slightly different from the PS3 version. You need about 10 shots on the loops to build up to 100 million.

    If you get the "Hurry Up!" sound effect, then Invasion is coming. So you might as well ping away at the captive ball unless you are close to the 100 million, because Invasion will interrupt you anyway. It's much easier to stop Invasion during multiball, than to try and restart multiball through that horrendous Flyover ramp shot. (The goal here is to repeatedly score 100mil in the same multiball.)

    Hypno74 spams the right ramp, but I find that shot a bit tricky on the move, preferring the left ramp. And sometimes I'll just let the third ball drain; it's easier that way.

    If you aren't awarded Lock Lit from the the skillshot, you can earn it easily enough:

    1. Hit the left ramp, then right ramp (or vice versa).

    2. Hit the flashing mission shot. (If the mission shot is the Flyover ramp, good luck. I never bother going for that shot.)

    3. Hit the left ramp and the right ramp again (or vice versa). Lock will now be lit.

    (There are no time limits for any of the above. And if you flub a ramp shot, just do it again.)
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    And just how much less could you care for it then?

    Sorry pet peeve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble View Post
    I was kidding, guy.

    Yes, Hypno74's tactic (or was it StevieJ's?) does work. But the scoring is slightly different from the PS3 version. You need about 10 shots on the loops to build up to 100 million.

    If you get the "Hurry Up!" sound effect, then Invasion is coming. So you might as well ping away at the captive ball unless you are close to the 100 million, because Invasion will interrupt you anyway. It's much easier to stop Invasion during multiball, than to try and restart multiball through that horrendous Flyover ramp shot. (The goal here is to repeatedly score 100mil in the same multiball.)

    Hypno74 spams the right ramp, but I find that shot a bit tricky on the move, preferring the left ramp. And sometimes I'll just let the third ball drain; it's easier that way.

    If you aren't awarded Lock Lit from the the skillshot, you can earn it easily enough:

    1. Hit the left ramp, then right ramp (or vice versa).

    2. Hit the flashing mission shot. (If the mission shot is the Flyover ramp, good luck. I never bother going for that shot.)

    3. Hit the left ramp and the right ramp again (or vice versa). Lock will now be lit.

    (There are no time limits for any of the above. And if you flub a ramp shot, just do it again.)
    Geez, just tell them how to restart Airstrike Multi-ball if they lose the multiball while you are at it I can't belive the king of sarcasm UIB missed your sarcasm in your original post

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    Geez, just tell them how to restart Airstrike Multi-ball if they lose the multiball while you are at it I can't belive the king of sarcasm UIB missed your sarcasm in your original post
    It was late, dammit!

    And I don't know what you're talking about. What's....sar....sar....sarcasm? Sar-casm. Is that related to "orgasm?"

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    Uranus you arse, I alphabetise the list and you don't say a word, jeez, and you were so grumpy about it too. Man, the thanks you get from these ingrates these days...

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    Complete with Benny Hill soundtrack. (No buxom, scantily clad nurses though, more's the pity.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekro Neko View Post
    Uranus you arse, I alphabetise the list and you don't say a word, jeez, and you were so grumpy about it too. Man, the thanks you get from these ingrates these days...

    I R Serious
    LOL If you change your GT to "I R Serious," I'll apologize.






    P.S. I did notice. But it was so worth not saying anything to be called an arse. LOL It looks exactly the way it should have to begin with. :-p

    P.S.S I wasn't really grumpy. Just givin' you a rough ride. I'm far from an ingrate. I appreciate the time you put into stuff like this...even if only a little. :-p
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    By the way, since Cloda did the table guide for SoTD, I think he should do the video guide too. I mean....Ironman....that's cool and all but... SoTD! Or even Earth Defense! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoryukenToTheChin View Post
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    Wow. He scored over a quarter billion in wizard mode.

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    Hypno74 does the same:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TlJ0DIod7M

    6 million per shot. Makes every other mode totally redundant. I won't be bothering wasting time with 200K shots in Hannibal Multiball anymore...

    (Note the very nice use of dead flipper passes for ball control in timed situations.)

    Spiderman

    StormtrooperMX19 gets the (wretched) Smart Move/Clever Fighter trophy/cheevo:

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    Wolverine

    StormtrooperMX19 gets the Adamantium Bond/Adamantium Skeleton trophy/cheevo:

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    Maybe it's just me, but suddenly some of the top scores...don't seem as impressive. Now, I'm not taking anything away from someone that gets to wizard mode, much less completes it. However, knowing that a large percentage of their score came from a mode lasting a couple minutes, versus all the time it took to get there.... I dunno. Just takes a little off for me. *shrug*

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but suddenly some of the top scores...don't seem as impressive. Now, I'm not taking anything away from someone that gets to wizard mode, much less completes it. However, knowing that a large percentage of their score came from a mode lasting a couple minutes, versus all the time it took to get there.... I dunno. Just takes a little off for me. *shrug*
    That's kinda the whole point of wizard modes though. They provide a significant reward for progressing the table and clearing all the missions. The tables I enjoy the most are the ones where completing the missions and progressing to wizard mode and winning are a significant reward. That way I have incentive to play all the different and varied modes ZEN's tables have to offer. Without that payout for completing the missions and wizard mode, all you have is grinding out one mode, or one series of shots for the best score potential.

    Yes, for some of these tables a large portion of the scores are going to come from wizard modes, and you can like it or not, I'm not going to say your opinion is invalid, but for me, table modes and mission progression are meaningless if there isn't a worthwhile payout at the end to reward completion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heathenSauce View Post
    That's kinda the whole point of wizard modes though. They provide a significant reward for progressing the table and clearing all the missions. The tables I enjoy the most are the ones where completing the missions and progressing to wizard mode and winning are a significant reward. That way I have incentive to play all the different and varied modes ZEN's tables have to offer. Without that payout for completing the missions and wizard mode, all you have is grinding out one mode, or one series of shots for the best score potential.

    Yes, for some of these tables a large portion of the scores are going to come from wizard modes, and you can like it or not, I'm not going to say your opinion is invalid, but for me, table modes and mission progression are meaningless if there isn't a worthwhile payout at the end to reward completion.
    I see your point. I suppose my opinion is biased based on the fact that I've only reached wizard mode four times, and two of them were in one game of Wolverine. LOL I guess all my scores are the result of grinding out the table in general. Most of the tables I play like Biolab and Captain America...really don't let you grind a mode because once you complete it, it's unavailable until you go through wizard mode. However, tables like Wolverine or SoTD will let you beat up a mode over and over again. I don't enjoy that approach, however, so it's not part of my game. I'm not a guy that's going to make hay on a table until I've spent an obscene amount of time on it. I'm just not a natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    I see your point. I suppose my opinion is biased based on the fact that I've only reached wizard mode four times, and two of them were in one game of Wolverine. LOL I guess all my scores are the result of grinding out the table in general. Most of the tables I play like Biolab and Captain America...really don't let you grind a mode because once you complete it, it's unavailable until you go through wizard mode. However, tables like Wolverine or SoTD will let you beat up a mode over and over again. I don't enjoy that approach, however, so it's not part of my game. I'm not a guy that's going to make hay on a table until I've spent an obscene amount of time on it. I'm just not a natural.
    I for one really love the idea of playing through a table, reaching wizard mode and getting the big reward. No point in understating it... I absolutely hate the idea of grinding any mode and as a result all the tables that have that option tend to not be my favourites or my scores on them are never going to reach the mega Billions. I'm just glad that Zen is going to change the tournament structure away from super long games.

    The risk in general is much higher playing through all the different modes to reach wizard mode because you are exposing yourself to all the different bounces and angles that the ball can come at you.... so the award for reaching and completing Wizard mode should be worth its proverbial weight in gold.

    I know Wolverine has spamming opportunities but yesterday I had two really good games for me on it and I learned a valuable lesson in my second game for not playing the table to its full strategic potential. In the first game I reached Wizard mode twice and had a score of 750 mil, in the second game I reached the Wizard mode four (or even 5 times... can't remember exactly) and to my dismay my score was not as ridiculously high as I thought it was going to be, only 950 mil (which is my highest score so I am still very happy). The big difference I realised is that in my first game I went for Adamantium ball which can result in up to a 4x wizard mode boost and in the second game I didn't because I followed advise that said it is risky (which it is) because you lose your kickbacks and claw save. If you are going to spam the table e.g. Sentinel mission, well then time is going to be the factor because you can keep claw save activated indefinitely but it is definitely not as rewarding as playing through the wizard mode.

    I really love Biolab, completely understands blue's brilliant strategy but just don't have the skills and am not able to have a long enough game (yet!!!) to fully make use of it. I really respect the high scores on that table because I can see anything is possible with its scoring strategy potential.

    I don't believe I am a natural because I have spent obscene amounts of time on this game and none of my scores have come easily. I am constantly improving though and am finding it much easier now to do well on a new table. My goal from the beginning (after I learned what Wizard mode was) was to reach and finish all the tables wizard modes (only newer ones). I'm too scared to see how much time I have spent on each table... I am sure I have reached 30 hours on some of them

    Apologies for the long post again... if you knew me in real live you would know that I suffer from a bad case of verbal diarrhoea
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    StormtrooperMX19 takes on Sabretooth, gets the Healing Factor Overloaded/Mutant Beater trophy/cheevo:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZMiwaMqxl0


    Iron Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloda View Post
    I know Wolverine has spamming opportunities but yesterday I had two really good games for me on it and I learned a valuable lesson in my second game for not playing the table to its full strategic potential. In the first game I reached Wizard mode twice and had a score of 750 mil, in the second game I reached the Wizard mode four (or even 5 times... can't remember exactly) and to my dismay my score was not as ridiculously high as I thought it was going to be, only 950 mil (which is my highest score so I am still very happy).
    Yeah thanks for slaughtering my hi score on this table, and the only table that i for a little while had an higher score on than you

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    Quote Originally Posted by satch View Post
    Yeah thanks for slaughtering my hi score on this table, and the only table that i for a little while had an higher score on than you
    That's ok. I only have 2 people on this entire forum on my friends list thus far...Cloda and Rapier. I went from having the ribbon/medal on every table, to having it on ONE. The rest... I'm not even in the same ******* ballpark, the same league, I'm not even sure it's even the same ******* sport.

    LOL I love Pulp Fiction. What a great table that would be. That AND Reservoir Dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    That's ok. I only have 2 people on this entire forum on my friends list thus far...Cloda and Rapier. I went from having the ribbon/medal on every table, to having it on ONE. The rest... I'm not even in the same ******* ballpark, the same league, I'm not even sure it's even the same ******* sport.

    LOL I love Pulp Fiction. What a great table that would be. That AND Reservoir Dogs.
    You did have me on there as well before and you could have me again.

    Okay, up to date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by satch View Post
    Yeah thanks for slaughtering my hi score on this table, and the only table that i for a little while had an higher score on than you
    Sorry man... on my friends list I think I'm about 7th.

    Quote Originally Posted by UranusIsBroken View Post
    That's ok. I only have 2 people on this entire forum on my friends list thus far...Cloda and Rapier. I went from having the ribbon/medal on every table, to having it on ONE. The rest... I'm not even in the same ******* ballpark, the same league, I'm not even sure it's even the same ******* sport.
    I don't even have one ribbon/medal on any of the tables. I'm more or less around 10-15 spot on my friends list and only on a couple of tables am I in the top 10. Talk about a steep challenge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloda View Post
    I don't even have one ribbon/medal on any of the tables. I'm more or less around 10-15 spot on my friends list and only on a couple of tables am I in the top 10. Talk about a steep challenge
    Sounds familiar. I have Hypno74 on my list... 'Everytime' (read: that one time) I get a score higher than his , I get a friendly "well played, Steviej". And 2 days later, he's tripled it

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    Quote Originally Posted by steviej View Post
    Sounds familiar. I have Hypno74 on my list... 'Everytime' (read: that one time) I get a score higher than his , I get a friendly "well played, Steviej". And 2 days later, he's tripled it
    LMAO I know how THAT feels. I JUST scored 271M on Secrets of the Deep, enough to overtake Rapier and his 267M. But I forgot that I added Cloda recently, and I'm 306M shy of his mark, so....no ribbon for me. LOL
    The only tables I'm beating Cloda at are the ones he absolutely refuses to even play. LOL

    The ONLY table I have a ribbon on, is Excalibur. I have 297M on that, and it's probably safe for a brief moment or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekro Neko View Post
    You did have me on there as well before and you could have me again.

    Okay, up to date.
    I tried sending you a request, but it would appear you have too many friends already, and no room for me. :-p Just got 488M on SoTD. Just 89M more and I'd have had Cloda. :-p God...that game took FOREVER.

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    Hypno74 uploaded this earlier -

    Marvel pinball : Hero of pinball ?

    Guess this is the congrats screen when you do everything for the 4 core Marvel Pinball tables.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoryukenToTheChin View Post
    Hypno74 uploaded this earlier -

    Marvel pinball : Hero of pinball ?

    Guess this is the congrats screen when you do everything for the 4 core Marvel Pinball tables.
    If you have the highest Hero score compared to your friends on your friends list, then that screen will appear. That's for the PS3 version though. I'm not sure if Pinball FX 2 has the same thing or not.

    In English it's says, "you are the pinball hero."

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    hey how does it mean in the spider man video 62 million orbit?

    play to level 5 on jj? then restart the table,then i made the four missions only one level

    take the final

    and then i get 62mio for one orbit? is that right?

    pls help me i need a chance to get the points on the tourney come on fair play


    i dont now the word for tha tis english but in german we say sportsghost
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weedstar DeLuxe View Post
    hey how does it mean in the spider man video 62 million orbit?

    play to level 5 on jj? then restart the table,then i made the four missions only one level

    take the final

    and then i get 62mio for one orbit? is that right?
    No, you keep on completing the mission as many times as you can. When the game is over, the level is saved. Now start up a new game and keep on completing that mission.

    If you look at the DMD in the beginning of the video (he points it out). JJ's level on his game is over 200. This is the way to increase the ramp values on the Clone Chaos mode.

    Once you boosted the level to your liking (it'll take a long time to get it up to his level), then start up Clone Chaos mode and you can start racking up the points by hitting the ramps and orbits. It's even better if you can start up the Clone Chaos Multiball, which increases the ramp and orbit values even more.

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    OzVoyager1 takes on Wolverine's missions and Wizard mode:

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    The text is a little hard to see, but the gameplay is clear enough, and Oz shows some good dead-bounce passing skills (which are very useful on all tables, but particularly this one).

    FWIW, I'll just point out that repeatedly getting H-E-A-L is a good idea. Each time builds the Regeneration bonus, which is payable when you successful regenerate (drain through right outlane, hit the Weapon X tank shot). On a long ball, this can easily amount to a ~30 million bonus, with no effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble View Post
    OzVoyager1 takes on Wolverine's missions and Wizard mode:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzerhbkQPis

    The text is a little hard to see, but the gameplay is clear enough, and Oz shows some good dead-bounce passing skills (which are very useful on all tables, but particularly this one).
    Thanks. Yeah something happened with the text. In my preview it had a silver outline around it but when it went on Youtube, no outline. Dead bounce passing comes from table knowledge and experience. After a while you get to know almost every possible angle that the ball falls and often just a touch of a ramp or top flipper is enough to let you know the angle is safe to just let it bounce. Trying to catch a falling ball is often more risky than just letting it fall. Its also pretty obvious I don't play multiball much on this table. Things that work on other tables didn't work as well on this table and it shows by my failures in the video.

    FWIW, I'll just point out that repeatedly getting H-E-A-L is a good idea. Each time builds the Regeneration bonus, which is payable when you successful regenerate (drain through right outlane, hit the Weapon X tank shot). On a long ball, this can easily amount to a ~30 million bonus, with no effort.
    Yep this is one table where you actually do want to spell out all inlane lights over and over, rather than most tables (where kickback activation is their purpose) where its better to always just keep one letter unlit, so if a kickback is lost you are only one letter away from regaining it.

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    StOrMtRoOpErMx19 plays through the Earth Defense table (PS3). It has a wizard mode, for those that were wondering about that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzdd4cHQzTA

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    Quote Originally Posted by steviej View Post
    StOrMtRoOpErMx19 plays through the Earth Defense table (PS3). It has a wizard mode, for those that were wondering about that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzdd4cHQzTA
    Awesome! One more Wizard Table question answered...Now, for Excalibur!

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    Quote Originally Posted by steviej View Post
    StOrMtRoOpErMx19 plays through the Earth Defense table (PS3). It has a wizard mode, for those that were wondering about that.
    Props to Stormtrooper. That's a pretty hardcore achievement.

    And in other news...

    OzVoyager1 takes on Captain America:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrFXwbfZ15k

    and Ironman:

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    This Thread really needs a Sticky,

    Great work to everyone who is putting out this stuff etc, a real credit to the community.


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    OzVoyager1 has put up a video showing basic skills:

    http://youtu.be/WXad_yr5KUQ

    There's also some intermediate skills on display, including dead-flipper passing, loop-passes and post-passing (aka slingshot passing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble View Post
    There's also some intermediate skills on display, including dead-flipper passing, loop-passes and post-passing (aka slingshot passing).
    Thanks for posting my vids mate, its appreciated.

    I agree some of those skills do start to fall into the intermediate category but I think sometimes if people just see something, like a backhanded shot, it at least gets them thinking about them. Its nothing special to most people here but to a complete novice it could completely change the way they see the game, well hopefully anyway.

    Damn "post passing", of course. I knew "slingshot pass" wasn't the official term but had heard them called that. I just couldn't think at the time what they were called. Oh well at least people now know what a 'slingshot' is, if they didn't know before. I know I didn't know what they were called when I was starting out.

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    OzVoyager1 gets to the wizard mode on Rome:

    Part 1:

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    Part 2:

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    Awesome! One more Wizard Table question answered...Now, for Excalibur!
    I know the answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by steviej View Post
    I know the answer
    Then I look foward to the video

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    Default Wolverine SNIKT Activation

    In this clip you will see a very quick and efficient and quite low risk way to activate SNIKT. Even if you are only able to successfully spell one or two letters using this method, you can then quickly spell the rest because you still have all three of your nudge warnings left. The only risk with this is if the ball for some or other reason don't come out of the SNIKT hole with enough speed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x7hvF8ZraU

    In my endeavours to record a successful SNIKT activation using a quick and efficient method I found, I had to repeat it many times before I to finally got it right. This clip is one of my failed attempts where I managed to activate the last letter using quite and unconventional but very cool looking shot - unplanned off course!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRYJy04Yvqk
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    Cloda, I think you have your videos mixed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekro Neko View Post
    Cloda, I think you have your videos mixed up.
    Thanks for picking that up. I swapped the links and corrected the info on the videos.

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    Ms. Splosion Man Table *All Achievements etc* by PhantomAudio83

    His Vid Description - Here's the first 40 minutes of one of my Ms Splosion Man games, with all the missions, Zip Line, Extra Ball, Cannon & Achievements unlocked.
    I was planning on recording the whole game but it'll take to long, & i need breaks on this table.

    I've not finished this game yet but it looks like its gonna be a high scorer, my best so far is 1 Billion, 200mil.


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    Here's a glitch i just encountered -

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    I always need a bit of luck to go my way to beat him and I got my fair share of it in this video but it feels good to get this on video. This is only the 6th time I have beaten him out of many, many attempts. Ultimo never gets easy because of the ways he blocks the table angles. It makes it almost impossible to predict where a ball is going to go because his imposing figure changes the table so much.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyicd17dXrU

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    The irrepressible Hypno74 doing Blade's wizard mode in 10 mins:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQGcqF2kzTA

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    Hypno74 - Mars Wizard Mode


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    Quote Originally Posted by rapierdwit View Post
    It was more of an inside joke between me and Uranusisbroken, he insists I always find a scoring grind and exploit it (airstrike multiball,romulus multiball,mine multiball, frenzy muliball)instead of playing the tables they way they are "supposed" to be played.
    So i'm not the only one doing this lol ?

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    All the videos are very awesome and lucrative and this must be checked by the several people.

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    Street Fighter - All Missions & Wizard Mode (M.Bison Battle) - by StOrMtRoOpErMx19

    I know its Zen Pinball but the Missions etc. are the same as PFX2.


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    Up to date

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    Thanks m8.


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    I dont know if you want to add this:

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...ature=view_all

    Fear Itself table trophies.

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    I have two achievement guides for the ghostrider and moon knight tables here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ8d96xg_II and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJOFF2XHAG8 I'd like to make more so that every table has a video achievement guide but which ones need it? Any requests?

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