Various Videos, Hints and Tips

[Nekro Neko]

Here is the list of videos for each table. Please only use Youtube as a video host, this is for consistancy.

AGENTS
Achievement: Reliable - PhantomAudio83
Achievement: Teamwork - PhantomAudio83
Achievement: Sniper - PhantomAudio83


BIOLAB
Mission: Reflex Upgrade - PhantomAudio83
Mission: Wisdom Upgrade - PhantomAudio83


BLADE
Wizard Mode - StormtrooperMX19
Wizard Mode - Hypno74


BUCCANEER


CAPTAIN AMERICA
Gameplay: Start to Finish - OzV1
Wizard Mode - Hypno74
Achievements - StormtrooperMx19
Starting A Mission - StormtrooperMx19
Super Skillshot: Saving Bucky - StormtrooperMx19
Extra Ball: Supply Drop - StormtrooperMx19


EARTH DEFENSE
Table Exploit: Airstrike Multiball - Hypno74*


Epic Quest


EXCALIBUR
Achievement: Renowned Knight - PhantomAudio83
Mission: Questing Beast Mode - Hypno74*


EXTREME
Achievement: Street Artist - PhantomAudio83
Achievement: King of the Playground - PhantomAudio83
Achievement: Skybencher - PhantomAudio83


FANTASTIC FOUR
Start to Finish - Cloda
Trophies/Achievements - StormtrooperMx19*
Gameplay + 40x Bonus Exploit - Hypno74*


GHOST RIDER
Gameplay: Start to Finish - Hypno74*


IRON MAN
Gameplay: Start to Finish |Pt 1|Pt 2|Pt 3| - Cloda
Gameplay: Start to Finish - OzV1
Achievement: Tony Stark - StOrMtRoOpErMx19
Wizard Mode - StormtrooperMX19
Wizard Mode - OzV1


MARS
Achievement: Archeologist - PhantomAudio83
Mission: Pyramid - Hypno74*
Wizard Mode - Hypno74*


Moon Knight
Gameplay: Scoring Big - Hypno74*


NIGHTMARE MANSION


PARANORMAL
Trophies/Achievements? - Hypno74*
Mission: Haunted House - Hypno74*


PASHA
Gameplay: Start to Finish - Nekro Neko
Extra Ball, Elixer method - Paranoid User
Achievement: Desert Explorer - PhantomAudio83
Achievement: Legendary Swordsman - PhantomAudio83
Achievement: Story Teller - PhantomAudio83
Table Feature: Magnet Minigame (Controller View) - PhantomAudio83


ROCKY AND BULLWINKLE


ROME
Gameplay: Start to Finish |Pt 1|Pt 2| - OzV1


SECRETS OF THE DEEP


SORCERER'S LAIR
Gameplay - Hypno74*


SPEED MACHINE


SPIDER-MAN
Achievement: Clever Fighter - StormtrooperMX19
Achievement: Clone Chaos - StormtrooperMX19
Table Exploit, 62m orbits - Hypno74*


STREET FIGHTER II TRIBUTE
Achievement: World Warrior - StormtrooperMX19
Bison Fight + Extra Ball - Hypno74*


THOR
Gameplay: Start to Finish - Hypno74*
Gameplay: High Scoring Strategy - TommyCyBeRRoy
Table Feature: Lightning Combo - Hypno74*


WOLVERINE
Gameplay: Start to Finish - OzV1
Achievement: Mutant Beater - PhantomAudio83
Achievement: Mutant Beater - StOrMtRoOpErMx19
Achievement: Adamantium Skeleton - PhantomAudio83
Table Feature: SNIKT - Cloda


X-MEN
Wizard Mode: Phoenix - Hypno74*
Wizard Mode: Sentinel - Hypno74*


Tips
Basic pinball skills - OzV1
Flynn's Kickbacks, Multipliers, Ball Saves and Extra Balls Thread


General Reviews
Classic Game Room - |Pt 1| Pt 2|

Thanks to, Paranoid User, Cloda and Womble for their input.

*Score made on Zen Pinball, physics can be significantly different.

[Nekro Neko]

booking this space incase I may need it

[Nekro Neko]

and a final space, just to be safe

[Nekro Neko]

I'm making a call out for anyone to provide some video guides either to get high scores, start to finish playing all modes, or just doing special shots and showing how to do certain techniques like the back handers or a Bang back.

I'll probably add some myself.

[Womble]

Captain America - wizard mode by Hypno74

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-idczYFM9mUL

Captain America - Trophies by StormtrooperMx19

http://www.youtube.com/user/StOrMtRoOpErMx19#g/c/DCDFCC5538B00445

Sorcerer's Lair - by Hypno74

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KPQ0Ef_ef0

Mars - Pyramid mission by Hypno74

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sByN6Lhzqo

Excalibur - 5 Million by Hypno74

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1gtGJJje4

Note: PS3 version. Physics are different on 360, you probably won't be able to trap the ball like Hypno does. The basic concept remains the same, though.


Street Fighter II - Bison Fight and Extra Ball, by Hypno74

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tLjF13hlM

Earth Defense - high scoring by Hypno74

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v1_p_HEbjAL

Note: PS3 version. The subway skillshot is not available in Pinball FX 2 so you'll have to light Air Strike Multiball Ball Locks the long way (by hitting alternating ramp shots).


Paranormal - Trophies by Hypno74

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0I4tCBOlo

Paranormal - Haunted House by Hypno74

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fphWhHRp17Q

Fantastic Four - Missions and Trophies by StormtrooperMx19

http://www.youtube.com/user/StOrMtRoOpErMx19#g/c/786386A89A70E2A7

Speed Machine - 306 million by MightySquirrel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMgx_H3j4uU

Biolab - Reflex Upgrade by PhantomAudio83

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83TFLr2M1pI

Biolab - Wisdom Upgrade by PhantomAudio83

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M32QJsRkwbw

Agents - Reliable Cheevo by PhantomAudio83

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs9FfY7XZ6g

Agents - Teamwork Cheevo by PhantomAudio83

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amuz7qnvBNE

Agents - Sniper Mission by PhantomAudio83

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6RfOKSIj_k

Extreme - Street Artist Cheevo by PhantomAudio83

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTLvrRYBQxs

Extreme - King of the Playground Cheevo by PhantomAudio83

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJNA4KxdTgA

Extreme - Skybencher Cheevo by PhantomAudio83

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho2tZ2Iz4Ks

PAPA real life pinball tutorials and tournament plays:

http://www.vimeo.com/user4577902

Chris Bucci - "The Pinball Collector" real life pinball reviews

http://www.youtube.com/user/spida1a#grid/user/578D4DB4E1491698

[UranusIsBroken]

I don't understand the reasoning behind identical tables playing differently on FX2 versus Zen Pinball. It makes ZERO sense. It makes any kinds of comparisons from a scoring perspective completely irrelevant between the two. I really have to scratch my head at why the two suites are different in terms of playability. You DEFINITELY cannot trap the ball coming out of the mission hole on Excalibur in the 360 version. It comes down with entirely too much heat. Something as simply as that VASTLY changes how the game plays.

My recommendation, for the purposes of this thread, is to only permit videos where what is shown, is possible on the 360 version. That is...if you're going to use a video from the PS3's Zen Pinball, make sure the technique illustrated is feasible on the corresponding FX2 table. Unless of course, you simply want to show the general process.

Oh, and for the record, the Earth Defense exploit, is gay.


Awesome thread, however, Has a ton of potential.

[Womble]

I don't understand the reasoning behind identical tables playing differently on FX2 versus Zen Pinball.

It appears the underlying engines have changed over time. Or at the very least, their usage has changed in individual tables.

Potted history and pre-history:

2007 - Pinball FX released. Features some spotty physics and a ping-pong ball. Flipper trapping is unconvincing. UI is rather basic and unappealing. Tables are a good first try, but rudimentary.

2009 - Zen Pinball released. Ping-pong physics and flipper trapping remain, but the included tables are noticeably superior to Pinball FX's initial offerings. UI, overall presentation and feature set is far beyond Pinball FX's. The ball displays noticeable (and unrealistic) spin. 360 users feel a little jealous.

2010 - Pinball FX 2 released. Appears to use a new or modified physics engine. Included tables are generally superior to previous efforts. Flipper trapping feels much more realistic, the ball's spin is more accurate, and the UI has been greatly overhauled. Many features added. Original Pinball FX 1 tables modified slightly, can be re-downloaded. PS3 users feel a little jealous.

Late 2010 - Marvel Pinball released for PS3 as a standalone app, and as tables for Pinball FX 2. Appears to use the same physics engine on both consoles. (i.e. uses the same engine as Pinball FX 2.)

[rampant speculation ahead]

2012 - "convergence" of Marvel Pinball and Zen Pinball to be released for PS3. Let's call it Zen Pinball 2 for now. Huzzah. Presumably will use (at least) the physics engine from Marvel/Pinball FX 2. Guess: original Zen Pinball tables may be upgraded to suit, as Pinball FX 1 tables were.

2012 - Pinball FX 2.5 released. At this point, Pinball FX and Zen Pinball are probably functionally similar, using the same physics engine, featuring much the same content (apart from platform exclusives).

Early 2012 - Zen Pinball 2 (or some platform like it) to be released for PC. To paraphrase Michelasso:

... as soon as it hits the PC market there will be millions of players and dozens of buyers...

Editorial: PC users will complain about having to pay $2.99 for DLC "when it should have been included in the purchase price", will complain about "console-itis" and "being dumbed down", have problems maintaining 60fps on their 8 year old PC and thus will blame "lazy developers", and will use all this as a justification for pirating it.


Early to mid 2012 - ZP2 to be released for PS Vita.

Late 2012 - ZP2 to be released for Wii U.

Oh, and for the record, the Earth Defense exploit, is gay.

Probably why they removed it in the 360 version.

However, the basic concept is still there. It's just that you have to work harder to start Air Strike Multiball.

And, it is a risk-reward thing: you can build up your Jackpot value, but you only score when you hit the Jackpot itself. And you have to ensure that you do this quickly enough so that Invasion doesn't interrupt the festivities.

I'm not entirely sure the Jackpot values in the 360 version are accurate. I'm almost certain it's been telling me my Jackpot values are far higher than what is being awarded. They seem to be out by an extra digit...

Another problem with Earth Defense is being awarded Locks as the skillshot. That really does make it worthwhile to simply restart the game until you get Locks, which is not something I want in a pinball.

(Maybe this could be fixed with a credits-unlocking system, like Pinball Hall of Fame's?)

[UranusIsBroken]

I love Earth Defense, but the Invasion deal is quite annoying. If you hit the captive ball when everything's going swimmingly, it brings the invasion closer. If you hit it again...it brings it CLOSER. In fact the only way to really prevent it, is hitting it within a very small window. My score on ED is decent, but mostly because I don't spam the daylights out of the Airstrike Multiball like a certain individual whose name I won't mention. :-p

[Nekro Neko]

I love Earth Defense, but the Invasion deal is quite annoying. If you hit the captive ball when everything's going swimmingly, it brings the invasion closer. If you hit it again...it brings it CLOSER. In fact the only way to really prevent it, is hitting it within a very small window. My score on ED is decent, but mostly because I don't spam the daylights out of the Airstrike Multiball like a certain individual whose name I won't mention. :-p

South African by any chance?

I'll update this at some point tomorrow hopefully.

[UranusIsBroken]

South African? No. Quarter each German, Polish, Irish, and Scottish. That means I'm an American. LOL

[Womble]

Death Kitty was referring to Cloda, a known score hacker, South African and ramp grinder.

[UranusIsBroken]

Death Kitty was referring to Cloda, a known score hacker, South African and ramp grinder.

LOL i see.

[rapierdwit]

My score on ED is decent, but mostly because I don't spam the daylights out of the Airstrike Multiball like a certain individual whose name I won't mention. :-p

He is referring to someone who tends to play the tables, "break them" (find the best scoring chance and exploit the crap out of it), and use that to make up for his lack of skill in actual virtual pinball. Not sure if Airstrike Multiball actually gives 100m when maxed out on 360 but it is still the way to go for best points on ED.

[rapierdwit]

There is a video of Purple Vomit taking it to Speed Machine on Youtube. It is pre-PFX2 and some of the nauances have been changed (the kick from the mission hole, for one) but it is still a great video.

[heathenSauce]

He is referring to someone who tends to play the tables, "break them" (find the best scoring chance and exploit the crap out of it), and use that to make up for his lack of skill in actual virtual pinball. Not sure if Airstrike Multiball actually gives 100m when maxed out on 360 but it is still the way to go for best points on ED.

Airstrike Multiball does pay out 100M on the 360 version using the same method of doubling the jackpot via the ramps.