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    Why does zp1 look clearer and sharper on my 480i tv and zp2 looks like all blury and frame rate laggy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maink View Post
    Why does zp1 look clearer and sharper on my 480i tv and zp2 looks like all blury and frame rate laggy.
    Maybe because the ZP1 graphics are inferior, just like your tv. So, step up the graphics, and it looks crappier. I remember playing some games on my old sdtv, some games looked way better than others. I really don't know though, I'm sure some tech geek will come in and explain better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by snakeman07 View Post
    Maybe because the ZP1 graphics are inferior, just like your tv. So, step up the graphics, and it looks crappier. I remember playing some games on my old sdtv, some games looked way better than others. I really don't know though, I'm sure some tech geek will come in and explain better...
    You pretty much hit the nail on the head. There's also the possibility that Zen just didn't bother to focus on the 480i version that much.

    Unlike in 2008, where half of the PS3 owners still had standard definition CRT TVs. That number has drastically decreased over the years, especially after the government applied regulations to restrict sales of CRT TVs.

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    only solution to buy a new tv , but no money right now , how are the grafx on hd tv ? i know hertz are important when buying a hd tv
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    Quote Originally Posted by maink View Post
    how are the grafx on hd tv ? i know hertz are important when buying a hd tv
    It looks awesome with no slowdowns whats so ever.

    Back in early 2010, when I bought ZP1. I too was still using a SDTV and besides the forced 4:3 letter box mode. Some of the tables had some nasty frame rate issues (Excalibur was really bad). In October of that year, I finally bought an HDTV and man what an improvement. Playing the tables in full screen was really breath taking and the slowdown issues were completely gone on the Excalibur table.

    Oh and you really don't have to worry about the specs on HDTVs that much anymore. The government made regulations on those as well. The bare minimum requirements will work for game consoles. In the past (3-4 years ago), this was indeed a problem since you had to be concerned with the refresh rate. A slow refresh rate would cause some nasty blurring and distortions, but that's not a problem anymore.
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    If you are in the market for a new TV, may I suggest a sony 3D TV. There are many TVs out there with different types of 3D and different types of 3D glasses too. I decided to get a Sony 3D TV because I did not want there to be any question with regard to compatability. I am very happy I did. Now that I have played Zen 2, Crises 2, God of War, and a bunch of other 3D games, its hard to go back to 2D and play them when they look so great in 3D. Depending on your situation and what room you are going to play your games in, another option is to get a 3D screen that is not a TV - Sony has one for 250 bucks and its 23 inches ...and it comes with a pair of 3D glasses and a 3D game ... it is nice for using on a desktop with your desktop pc and your PS3, but be warned, it will not support nvidia 3D used in many PC games.

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    Samsung makes great 3d TVs as well and tend to be cheaper than Sony. At least they were the last time I was looking at TVs about a year ago. Stay away from Vizio. They are cheap TVs but you get what you pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RetroBlast View Post
    Sony has one for 250 bucks and its 23 inches ...and it comes with a pair of 3D glasses and a 3D game ... it is nice for using on a desktop with your desktop pc and your PS3, but be warned, it will not support nvidia 3D used in many PC games.
    It's a pretty good setup from what I've heard.

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    Actually, if you have access to a Best Buy (and they have it in stock) it's down to $199 now:

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+Com...=1218360683860

    Given how once upon a time they tried to hit people for $500 for it (I believe), it's a much better deal now.

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    lol stay away from vizio
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    Quote Originally Posted by maink View Post
    lol stay away from vizio
    I actually have a 55' Vizio in my bedroom and its awesome. I've never had any problems with it at all. Now I do have a 65' Samsung Smart TV and a new acquired 70' Sharp Quattron. Let me tell...Sharp has the best picture quality I have seen on a tv HANDS DOWN!! ZP2 in 3D is absolutely exquisite! Mind you this is my opinion, but I'm convinced that Sharp is where its at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafie View Post
    I actually have a 55' Vizio in my bedroom and its awesome. I've never had any problems with it at all. Now I do have a 65' Samsung Smart TV and a new acquired 70' Sharp Quattron. Let me tell...Sharp has the best picture quality I have seen on a tv HANDS DOWN!! ZP2 in 3D is absolutely exquisite! Mind you this is my opinion, but I'm convinced that Sharp is where its at.
    You either have the biggest televisions in the world bordering on IMAX sized screens, or you meant " (inches) instead of ' (feet).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafie View Post
    I actually have a 55' Vizio in my bedroom and its awesome. I've never had any problems with it at all. Now I do have a 65' Samsung Smart TV and a new acquired 70' Sharp Quattron. Let me tell...Sharp has the best picture quality I have seen on a tv HANDS DOWN!! ZP2 in 3D is absolutely exquisite! Mind you this is my opinion, but I'm convinced that Sharp is where its at.
    Wow, what Screen are they - Plasma, LCD or LED?

    I game on a 47' LG Scarlet LCD Screen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoryukenToTheChin View Post
    Wow, what Screen are they - Plasma, LCD or LED?

    I game on a 47' LG Scarlet LCD Screen.
    I have an LED. Both the Samsung and Sharp!

    Quote Originally Posted by surf1der View Post
    You either have the biggest televisions in the world bordering on IMAX sized screens, or you meant " (inches) instead of ' (feet).
    Geez Surf I didn't know I was in school. I think we all agree that its definitely inches, not feet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by maink View Post
    only solution to buy a new tv , but no money right now , how are the grafx on hd tv ? i know hertz are important when buying a hd tv
    Zen 2 looks spectacular in HD, I highly recommend it!
    Last edited by ER777; 09-19-2012 at 12:41 AM. Reason: Oops

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafie View Post
    I have an LED. Both the Samsung and Sharp!
    Thats it im on my way round to your's lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafie View Post
    I have an LED. Both the Samsung and Sharp!


    Geez Surf I didn't know I was in school. I think we all agree that its definitely inches, not feet!
    I was trying to make a joke. Not all of them can be home runs. I have no problem with you mixing up the symbol for feet and inches as long as you are not an architect or civil engineer that designs any of the buildings, bridges, or roads I happen to frequent.

    Also, the debate between lcd and led always confuses me as all led tvs are lcd tvs. Granted, led light source tends to be more energy efficient, make thinner tvs possible, and produce slightly more vibrant colors while the cfl light source is more photorealistic. In regards to overall image quality, I don't think there is much difference for the average consumer. LED LCDs tend to be more expensive upfront but that probably washes out with energy savings over the lifetime of the tv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoryukenToTheChin View Post
    Thats it im on my way round to your's lol.
    You're welcome to my place any time, Steve. It's going to be a hefty plane ticket for ya though.

    Quote Originally Posted by surf1der View Post
    I was trying to make a joke. Not all of them can be home runs. I have no problem with you mixing up the symbol for feet and inches as long as you are not an architect or civil engineer that designs any of the buildings, bridges, or roads I happen to frequent.

    Also, the debate between lcd and led always confuses me as all led tvs are lcd tvs. Granted, led light source tends to be more energy efficient, make thinner tvs possible, and produce slightly more vibrant colors while the cfl light source is more photorealistic. In regards to overall image quality, I don't think there is much difference for the average consumer. LED LCDs tend to be more expensive upfront but that probably washes out with energy savings over the lifetime of the tv.
    Maybe I should have put an "lol" by my statement. I thought I did. Well I took it as a joke, so no worries.

    Anyway, I don't know much about tv specs and all. I just know what I like when I see it. So far that Sharp Quattron really kicks off. The colors are amazing. You should see ZP2 on it. It's spectacular. I honestly couldn't tell you what's better between LCD and LED. LOL Really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafie View Post
    So far that Sharp Quattron really kicks off. The colors are amazing. You should see ZP2 on it. It's spectacular. I honestly couldn't tell you what's better between LCD and LED. LOL Really.
    The Sharp Quattron gets pretty good reviews and they look pretty good at Best Buy. Though I never trust the settings they have on the showroom floor. They have some pretty shady tricks they use to manipulate the image on TVs. I have a 46" Samsung LED LCD TV. Unfortunately, I can't go any bigger because I have a built-in entertainment center.
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    One thing that really had a negative impact on my enjoyment of ZP1 was the delay introduced by my HDTV. Granted I have a Sharp, which is less good than most about the amount of time it takes to display images(over 100ms even in "game mode"), but anything that requires precise reaction to what's going on on the screen where there's a delay between my press of a button and some result of that on the screen is frustrating. Since I started playing ZP2 recently, I've been using my 23" Asus monitor. This has produced a much better experience for me.

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    Playing on a 42 LG Plasma and ZP2 looks fantastic.

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